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    You can't just live off diehards (no disrespect to our Diehard).

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    nearly forgot that we have a basketball game tonight.

    college hoops appears to be dying a slow death

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    nearly forgot that we have a basketball game tonight.

    college hoops appears to be dying a slow death
    College hoops always dies a slow death until its annual March resurrection. DNF likes our chances tonight...I still don't like our chances. Hopefully Carlson is back.

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    it only seems like college basketball is dying from our limited perspective. College basketball at Utah is dying, that's for sure. I've seen countless Utah games. I was a manager for the team. But I have never seen the awful curtain some of you have described. To hear about that turns my stomach. How many times have I seen the arena full, even in preseason? A lot. Now, here we are with Salt Lake City a lot bigger, Utah in the Pac 12, etc and we have this curtain going up. It's a travesty. Sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    it only seems like college basketball is dying from our limited perspective. College basketball at Utah is dying, that's for sure. I've seen countless Utah games. I was a manager for the team. But I have never seen the awful curtain some of you have described. To hear about that turns my stomach. How many times have I seen the arena full, even in preseason? A lot. Now, here we are with Salt Lake City a lot bigger, Utah in the Pac 12, etc and we have this curtain going up. It's a travesty. Sad.
    I was just thinking back to the mid 90's, where places like Utah, New Mexico, UNLV and UCLA (with sizable arenas) were consistently packed and now those schools can't give away tickets

    UNLV’s announced attendance, which includes tickets out, averages 8,559 in the 18,000-seat building, its sixth decline in a row and its lowest figure in the Thomas & Mack, which opened in 1983

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports...-mack-1603650/



    Here are the attendance averages from the previous three seasons: 8,620 (2017-18), 11,183 (2016-17), and 8,073 (2015-16). Attendance at Pauley Pavilion this season has been well below that: 7,673. If you subtract the 12,985 that went to the Notre Dame game (which still couldn’t fill the 13,800 seats), the average drops to 6,913.
    https://gojoebruin.com/2018/12/26/uc...-free-tickets/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    it only seems like college basketball is dying from our limited perspective. College basketball at Utah is dying, that's for sure. I've seen countless Utah games. I was a manager for the team. But I have never seen the awful curtain some of you have described. To hear about that turns my stomach. How many times have I seen the arena full, even in preseason? A lot. Now, here we are with Salt Lake City a lot bigger, Utah in the Pac 12, etc and we have this curtain going up. It's a travesty. Sad.
    We've all experienced the full Huntsman Center, and it is sad to see the curtain. We recently have had higher attendance than anyone else in the Pac-12 other than Arizona. I think we're still there or close to there. The death of college basketball is a national trend. It may be happening faster in SLC due to our mediocrity, but it seems to be happening everywhere.

    Teams like Duke/UNC/Kentucky/etc are, of course, still selling out, but it's not the same. I have been a Duke fan since 2001, when I started grad school there. The buzz is less than it has been because it takes a lot of energy to re-invest in an almost entirely new team every season. Last season, we had Zion to keep interest in college hoops. Who do we have this season? Who are the players/teams we are excited to watch? We don't know yet because 90% of them are 1-and-done freshmen.

    For the college basketball junkies on this board...if you look at the top 10, can you name the players on the teams? Who are the leading candidates for the Wooden award? It's crazy to me that I can't answer those questions anymore.

    Duke just lost to Stephen F Austin. It looked like men against boys with a bunch of jacked, 20-something Texas studs against a bunch of lost, skinny, 18-year-old Dukies. But Duke was ranked #1 and SFA was in the 250s in Kenpom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    I was just thinking back to the mid 90's, where places like Utah, New Mexico, UNLV and UCLA (with sizable arenas) were consistently packed and now those schools can't give away tickets

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports...-mack-1603650/





    https://gojoebruin.com/2018/12/26/uc...-free-tickets/
    Those schools had good teams then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Those schools had good teams then.
    We still lead the PAC-12 in attendance, or at least are near the top. Our arena is too big for the times -- college basketball attendance is down nationwide, with rare exceptions. People watch on TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    People watch on TV.
    Or they dont watch at all. The interest in college bb has dwindled significantly since the advent of the one and done and the explosive growth of nba.

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    Anyone in ABQ and want to watch the game with me? I'm at spectators. I'll be the guy watching the byu vs Utah gam
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    Everybody brace yourselves for the 50 posts from SU on how we screwed up not recruiting Childs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    Everybody brace yourselves for the 50 posts from SU on how we screwed up not recruiting Childs
    Single biggest mistake of Larry's tenure.

    This program feels so dead right now. Nobody's in the stands for BYU/Utah.

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    We do not have a single player with a post game. We also don't have much outside shooting. We need Allen and Gach to drive on every play. Its the only effective piece of the offense.

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    Several times I was ready for the blowout and here we are at 4 points
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    Several times I was ready for the blowout and here we are at 4 points
    Yeah, if they could just miss some of those threes....or if any of ours could go down. I think we are a shooter and a post presence away from being pretty good.

    So, the TV guys said that Mark Pope took a time out to ask for a review on the bad moving screen call against Janunen. Pope wanted them to call it a flagrant!

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    Rylan Jones is going to be fun. Should be some good matchups between him and Mannion at AZ.
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    This is a nice win for this young team!
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    Beautiful!
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    wow, nice win by Utah

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    Did not expect that. Fun game to attend! Crowd was loud but would have been deafening if it were more than 2/3 full. Jahntunen is going to be good-loved his D; soft hands around the rim. Great win!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    We still lead the PAC-12 in attendance, or at least are near the top. Our arena is too big for the times -- college basketball attendance is down nationwide, with rare exceptions. People watch on TV.
    We may lead in tickets sold and student seats allotted, but unless the high is 5,000, there is no way we lead the league in butts in the seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    Or they dont watch at all. The interest in college bb has dwindled significantly since the advent of the one and done and the explosive growth of nba.
    Just this year I heard Daryl Morey say on Feakonomiks that the NCAA playoffs make more money than the entire NBA regular season combined. He was arguing that the NBA needs to drastically shorten the season and go to single elimination in the playoffs.

    College basketball is superior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    .......This program feels so dead right now. Nobody's in the stands for BYU/Utah.
    ??? I liked the energy tonight.

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrenrut View Post
    Rylan Jones is going to be fun......
    Ive seen this kid play a lot of ball. Mark my word, he’ll be one of the all-time great Utes by the time he leaves the hill, assuming he stays healthy.
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    This past NCAA playoffs was the greatest ever in my estimation. I’ve never seen anything like Virginia’s close wins. A team built on payers who’d been there for years.

    An average of about six ones and dones a year. That is ruining college basketball? I don’t think so. We’re characteristically stuck in our own prism.

    https://theundefeated.com/features/all-the-nba-drafts-one-and-done-lottery-picks-a-scorecard/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    Everybody brace yourselves for the 50 posts from SU on how we screwed up not recruiting Childs
    Even I’m smart enough to look at the ESPN 100 and see that the 45th kid lives 20 minutes from campus, and say, We need to offer that guy.
    One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike -- and yet it is the most precious thing we have.

    --Albert Einstein

    The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing, is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice.

    --Richard Dawkins

    Be kind to all, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.

    --Philo

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Even I’m smart enough to look at the ESPN 100 and see that the 45th kid lives 20 minutes from campus, and say, We need to offer that guy.
    So after an offseason where you referred to Mark Pope as a "real" coach, you dont have anything to say about the game "your" team just won, but instead, you go to an old, worn out, obvious talking point?

    I am stunned.

  27. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Even I’m smart enough to look at the ESPN 100 and see that the 45th kid lives 20 minutes from campus, and say, We need to offer that guy.
    I agree with you... Larry's biggest mistake was not recruiting him.
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