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  1. #571
    Quote Originally Posted by Diehard Ute View Post
    You can thank the former mayors for that.

    They diverted and borrowed money for their pet projects at the expense of other things.




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    Yup, SLC has been and continues to be severely mismanaged. But we do have special bike lanes now (coming from a biker - who thinks it is ridiculous, not only for the expense, but also because they never planned to string the lanes together in a useful way, so you find yourself riding along in a lane that suddenly disappears and you find yourself in the middle of some 6 lane road), and Harvey Milk Blvd.
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  2. #572
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    Yup, SLC has been and continues to be severely mismanaged. But we do have special bike lanes now (coming from a biker - who thinks it is ridiculous, not only for the expense, but also because they never planned to string the lanes together in a useful way, so you find yourself riding along in a lane that suddenly disappears and you find yourself in the middle of some 6 lane road), and Harvey Milk Blvd.
    If you dig into the budgets, as revenues grew the expenses that grew were quite interesting.

    Streets had modest growth

    Police and Fire have seen modest growth. (Police until this year had not seen an increase in allowed officers since basically the 80’s)

    Parks and public services have grown more than police and fire.

    Non departmental spending has soared. Much of that has been services for homeless and low income folks. We’re talking $30M+

    Then there’s the bike lanes. $500,000 to study and indoor farmers market. $1,000,000 a year to UTA for the ‘S Line’.

    It’s quite interesting to dig through.


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  3. #573
    Quote Originally Posted by Diehard Ute View Post
    If you dig into the budgets, as revenues grew the expenses that grew were quite interesting.

    Streets had modest growth

    Police and Fire have seen modest growth. (Police until this year had not seen an increase in allowed officers since basically the 80’s)

    Parks and public services have grown more than police and fire.

    Non departmental spending has soared. Much of that has been services for homeless and low income folks. We’re talking $30M+

    Then there’s the bike lanes. $500,000 to study and indoor farmers market. $1,000,000 a year to UTA for the ‘S Line’.

    It’s quite interesting to dig through.


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    You can probably provide your insight to this, but I've heard from various police officers that they blame much of the problem that was happening in Pioneer Park and Rio Grand with the homeless on Rocky Anderson. I can't remember enough of the details to not mess it up, but do you agree with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    You can probably provide your insight to this, but I've heard from various police officers that they blame much of the problem that was happening in Pioneer Park and Rio Grand with the homeless on Rocky Anderson. I can't remember enough of the details to not mess it up, but do you agree with that?
    That’s a very simplistic view.

    The way administrations can influence the way police work is an issue. The chief in SLC is an at will employee of the Mayor. He can be fired anytime for absolutely no reason. Which makes the chief sort of a puppet. (But the current chief is an excellent chief anyway)

    There were many issues that lead to Rio. The reduction of drug crimes to misdemeanors, the courts rulings on camping, panhandling etc., the Sheriff restricting who could be booked in to jail, lack of resources, everyone in Utah shipping their unwanted to downtown, It’s a very complex issue.


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    That's one way to do it.

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    Wow. They've really upped their game since they offered me a free pair of gym socks for joining up when I graduated from high school.
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    That's one way to do it.

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    From Calvin Coolidge’s Independence Day speech, July 5, 1926, celebrating the 150th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence:

    “About the Declaration there is a finality that is exceedingly restful. It is often asserted that the world has made a great deal of progress since 1776, that we have had new thoughts and new experiences which have given us a great advance over the people of that day, and that we may therefore very well discard their conclusions for something more modern. But that reasoning can not be applied to this great charter. If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final. If governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, that is final. No advance, no progress can be made beyond these propositions. If anyone wishes to deny their truth or their soundness, the only direction in which he can proceed historically is not forward, but backward toward the time when there was no equality, no rights of the individual, no rule of the people. Those who wish to proceed in that direction can not lay claim to progress. They are reactionary. Their ideas are not more modern, but more ancient, than those of the Revolutionary fathers.”

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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    How the universe is treating me right now.


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