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    The frequent flyer thread

    I thought it would be fun to have a thread for anyone who flies a lot -- or a little. Stories, ideas, experiences ought to be interesting to share.

    To start with:

    The revolutionary new design for airline seats that could make economy just as luxurious as first class


    I'll believe it when I see it, but we can always dream, can't we?

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    It looks cool, but I really don't know why he put any kind of screen/entertainment in it. Some airlines are realizing that stuff like that is too heavy and expensive. QANTAS in Austrailia simply did away with the seatback entertainment and gives everyone an ipad for in flight entertainment. Its a lot lighter (fuel savings) and cheaper (those seatback things have to be a ton to fix/replace/buy)

    I think in the future, they will expect everyone to bring their own tablet or whatever and just have an open network to access all the features - pretty much like it is now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I thought it would be fun to have a thread for anyone who flies a lot -- or a little. Stories, ideas, experiences ought to be interesting to share.

    To start with:

    The revolutionary new design for airline seats that could make economy just as luxurious as first class


    I'll believe it when I see it, but we can always dream, can't we?
    I think it's kind hilarious that LA Ute just implied that he flies economy. That's the funniest thing I've read on this board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scratch View Post
    I think it's kind hilarious that LA Ute just implied that he flies economy. That's the funniest thing I've read on this board.
    Et tu, Scratche?

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I thought it would be fun to have a thread for anyone who flies a lot -- or a little. Stories, ideas, experiences ought to be interesting to share.

    To start with:

    The revolutionary new design for airline seats that could make economy just as luxurious as first class


    I'll believe it when I see it, but we can always dream, can't we?
    The seats in the first picture in the link reminds me of Soaring over California in California Adventure Theme Park.

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    On my flight home, a full flight, someone asked if I wanted to switch seats. I told him I'd swap for an isle, but not a middle. So he said: "we'll see." (Which, that's an odd response). As it turns out, he was in the middle seat next to me and wanted me to slide over so that he could have the isle. He was a bigger fellow, but so am I. So, he crams into his middle seat, and the people he is traveling with (I think it was a Zinja convention, that MLM) say very aggressively: "That's ok...we'll just talk over HIM the whole flight." Funny thing is, they were all asleep within about 10 min of take off. On this same flight, I had a rather large individual in front of me, who was pretty much in my lap the whole time because of reclining the seat and the momentum of his weight. Halfway through the flight I turn to the guy next to me and said "aren't you glad you didn't switch?" He chuckled.
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    I just hit 2 million lifetime miles on American.

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    I took a flight on Friday, and Delta made an announcement that starting that day you can leave your "small electronics" on from gate to gate. No more having to shut off your e-reader or your cell phone. They said, "We hope you will enjoy using your devices from gate to gate as much as we will like not having to nag you to shut them off." They ask that the cellular service be shut off so it is in airplane mode. I haven't ever seen reports that indicate that leaving the phone in cellular mode actually causes any problems flying a plane, and have accidentally left my work phone on in my purse during flights with no noticeable navigation problems in the cockpit. Does anyone know if a phone left in cellular mode is an actual threat, or just a perceived threat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freaky Girl View Post
    I took a flight on Friday, and Delta made an announcement that starting that day you can leave your "small electronics" on from gate to gate. No more having to shut off your e-reader or your cell phone. They said, "We hope you will enjoy using your devices from gate to gate as much as we will like not having to nag you to shut them off." They ask that the cellular service be shut off so it is in airplane mode. I haven't ever seen reports that indicate that leaving the phone in cellular mode actually causes any problems flying a plane, and have accidentally left my work phone on in my purse during flights with no noticeable navigation problems in the cockpit. Does anyone know if a phone left in cellular mode is an actual threat, or just a perceived threat?
    It depends on the plane and conditions but there have been documented cases of interference from on board electronics that transmit a signal.

    Newer planes have far more shielding to stop this threat

    There's never been a documented crash because of the interference. The concern, and the reason it was always take off and landing, is because the interference hits VFR radios and causes extra work for pilots. Takeoff and landing are times they're already busy.

    The other issue is phones can cause issues with ground cellular networks when at such altitudes. The FCC actually bans the use of transmitting devices in flight as well, because of the network concerns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freaky Girl View Post
    I took a flight on Friday, and Delta made an announcement that starting that day you can leave your "small electronics" on from gate to gate. No more having to shut off your e-reader or your cell phone. They said, "We hope you will enjoy using your devices from gate to gate as much as we will like not having to nag you to shut them off." They ask that the cellular service be shut off so it is in airplane mode. I haven't ever seen reports that indicate that leaving the phone in cellular mode actually causes any problems flying a plane, and have accidentally left my work phone on in my purse during flights with no noticeable navigation problems in the cockpit. Does anyone know if a phone left in cellular mode is an actual threat, or just a perceived threat?
    I never turn my phone off. It is complete bullshit. I keep my phone on in protest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freaky Girl View Post
    I took a flight on Friday, and Delta made an announcement that starting that day you can leave your "small electronics" on from gate to gate. No more having to shut off your e-reader or your cell phone. They said, "We hope you will enjoy using your devices from gate to gate as much as we will like not having to nag you to shut them off." They ask that the cellular service be shut off so it is in airplane mode. I haven't ever seen reports that indicate that leaving the phone in cellular mode actually causes any problems flying a plane, and have accidentally left my work phone on in my purse during flights with no noticeable navigation problems in the cockpit. Does anyone know if a phone left in cellular mode is an actual threat, or just a perceived threat?
    I was on a Delta flight Wednesday night before the change. In guy siting in the aisle seat on the row in front of me didn't want to stop texting, even after they announced to turn everything off. As the flight attendant came through for the final check before taking off, she stood by his seat and loudly announced that takeoff was being delayed due to the guy in 13 C who thought his texting was more important. She did it in a playful way, but it was effective, the guy was embarrassed into shutting it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freaky Girl View Post
    I took a flight on Friday, and Delta made an announcement that starting that day you can leave your "small electronics" on from gate to gate. No more having to shut off your e-reader or your cell phone. They said, "We hope you will enjoy using your devices from gate to gate as much as we will like not having to nag you to shut them off." They ask that the cellular service be shut off so it is in airplane mode. I haven't ever seen reports that indicate that leaving the phone in cellular mode actually causes any problems flying a plane, and have accidentally left my work phone on in my purse during flights with no noticeable navigation problems in the cockpit. Does anyone know if a phone left in cellular mode is an actual threat, or just a perceived threat?
    In 2003, I sat next to a guy who said he was a senior engineer at Boeing and that the ban on electronics on planes is nonsense. I've only done this a few times but NetJets flight attendants never tell you to turn off your electronics.

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    What I've read (FWIW) is that cell phones can cause issues during takeoff and landing. Beyond that, the biggest issue seems to be draining your battery while your phone hunts for a cell network on a flight.

    I'm really happy about this because I like to catch up on reading email and drafting responses (even if I don't send them). Losing 20-30 minutes each way on both takeoff and landing (total of almost an hour) is a pain. I don't read much of anything anymore that is in hard copy format.

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    FAA Says Electronic Devices Now Allowed In-Flight. So Why The Heck Were We Turning Them Off All This Time?

    Interesting piece.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewbe..._medium=social

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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