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    NCAA 2019 Football Season

    May as well kick off the season thread with this glorious moment.

    https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...-camp-check-in

    This year's iteration of McCullough's shirt features himself checking into camp in 2018 wearing a shirt featuring himself checking into camp in 2017 wearing a shirt featuring himself checking into camp in 2016 wearing a shirt featuring himself checking into champ in 2015.
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    It's hideous

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post


    It's hideous
    I agree. Skull and cross bones?! Are we sure it’s not a Halloween prank?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sullyute View Post
    I agree. Skull and cross bones?! Are we sure it’s not a Halloween prank?
    I'm having a hard time mixing the Cornhusker name with that image. It's worse than Swoop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I'm having a hard time mixing the Cornhusker name with that image. It's worse than Swoop.
    Maybe it's "Talk Like a Pirate Week" on campus.

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    More big QB news out of Indiana.

    Freshman Micheal Penix beat out Peyton Ramsey (last years starter) and Jack Tuttle for the IU QB starting job.

    Stay tuned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    More big QB news out of Indiana.

    Freshman Micheal Penix beat out Peyton Ramsey (last years starter) and Jack Tuttle for the IU QB starting job.

    Stay tuned.
    I hope Jack has chosen a very marketable major. His future in football seems questionable.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I hope Jack has chosen a very marketable major. His future in football seems questionable.
    You are a poet.

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    Does anyone else in college football media "get it" like Klatt does? I've seen 100 clueless takes from college football media over the past two days.

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    That is fun list. I have no idea who Eric Church is, I assume a country singer.

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    CCR is the most Ed Orgeron pick there could ever be.

    David Shaw with Sade? No wonder Stanford sucks this year. Either that or his wife submitted his pick.

    I may have to revisit the Earth, Wind, and Fire playlist. They showed up a surprising number of times.
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    With SMU losing, we are down to 7 unbeaten teams. Here they are with ESPN's odds of winning out the regular season:

    Clemson, 78%
    Ohio State, 57.4%
    Alabama, 31.3%
    LSU, 11.7%
    Penn State, 9.7%
    Baylor, 2.0%
    Minnesota, 0.2%

    They have Utah as strong favorites in each remaining game, but even at around 90% odds per game, our odds of winning all three are just 29.1%.

    Playoff picture:

    SEC: Down to Alabama, LSU, and Georgia. It's next to impossible for the SEC to get left out, and it's very possible for the SEC to get two teams in. If Bama/LSU is a great game this week, people will want the loser in the playoff. Or, if Georgia wins out, including the SEC title game, a 12-1 title game loser (Bama or LSU) would still have a strong case.
    Big10: Down to Ohio State, Penn State, and Minnesota. Any of these would make it at 13-0, and they all can make it at 12-1 if the loss is the right loss. I don't think there's any way that they get two teams in. Maybe if Ohio State loses to Michigan, misses the title game on a tiebreaker, and finishes 11-1.
    ACC: Clemson. If they win out, they're in. It would be very interesting to see how they are treated with a loss. It would be a bad loss, but they are Clemson.
    Pac-12: Down to Oregon and Utah. Either team at 12-1 would have a strong case, but Oregon's is more sure because they played Auburn. Interestingly, if Oregon had scheduled a cupcake instead of Auburn, they would be a lock. The real questions for the Pac-12 teams are (1) does a 2nd SEC team get in ahead of a Pac-12 champion? and (2) Does a 12-1 Oklahoma get in ahead of a 12-1 Pac-12 team?
    Big12: Down to Oklahoma and Baylor. If Baylor wins out, they are in. If Oklahoma finishes 12-1, are they a lock?

    Here's the nightmare scenario for the committee:

    Bama/LSU finishes 12-1 with a narrow loss to Georgia in the SEC title game and a convincing win over LSU/Bama.
    Georgia finishes 12-1 with a win over Bama in the SEC title game.
    Oklahoma finishes 12-1 with second win over Baylor in the Big12 title game.
    Oregon/Utah finishes 12-1 with a win in the Pac-12 title game.
    Clemson finishes 12-1 with a loss to Wake Forest and a win in the ACC title game.
    Ohio State finishes 12-1 with a loss to either Penn State or Michigan and a win in the Big10 title game.

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    Just one more I would change in the nightmare scenario. Georgia loses to Auburn, but then wins the SEC championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post

    They have Utah as strong favorites in each remaining game, but even at around 90% odds per game, our odds of winning all three are just 29.1%.
    I think that the 29.1% (now at 28.4%) is winning every game we play from now until the end of the season, not just the final 3 regular season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahsMrSports View Post
    I think that the 29.1% (now at 28.4%) is winning every game we play from now until the end of the season, not just the final 3 regular season.
    Of course. Sorry. At 90% each, our odds of winning all three are much higher, around 70-75%.

    I guess the 28% includes the Pac-12 title game, which means they give us about a 40% chance of beating Oregon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahsMrSports View Post
    I think that the 29.1% (now at 28.4%) is winning every game we play from now until the end of the season, not just the final 3 regular season.

    Or at least through a conference championship game. ESPN's projections for the last three games mean that ESPN thinks we have a 74.9% chance of winning out through the end of the regular season. Which feels about right.

    ESPN thinks Oregon has a 77.5% chance of winning its last 3 games, but also says Oregon's game at ASU is tougher than any game Utah has left.

    It also thinks UCLA has a 1.8% chance of winning its last 3 games.

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    Florida State fires Willie Taggart today.




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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    OSU got in over TCU and Baylor when those two teams were at least as deserving as the Buckeyes.

    Plus, it's just human nature. You can't erase it. They can pretend that they don't see the name, but of course they do. Who is on the playoff committee? People who have been in college football for their entire lives. You think they can just flip a switch and pretend they don't realize that Alabama is the most storied program in CF history?
    Are you talking 2014 when the big 12 didn't have a title game and Ohio state won theirs? Because that only strengthens my argument..

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahsMrSports View Post
    Are you talking 2014 when the big 12 didn't have a title game and Ohio state won theirs? Because that only strengthens my argument..
    I am talking about 2014 when if TCU or Baylor had been named Texas or Oklahoma, they'd have been in. We all know it. The title game was a convenient explanation for the committee, but that was all about OSU's brand relative to TCU/Baylor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    I am talking about 2014 when if TCU or Baylor had been named Texas or Oklahoma, they'd have been in. We all know it. The title game was a convenient explanation for the committee, but that was all about OSU's brand relative to TCU/Baylor.
    That's based on nothing more than your own paranoia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahsMrSports View Post
    That's based on nothing more than your own paranoia.
    Well, that and the "paranoia" of a million other fans and dozens of sports journalists who wrote about it at the time. Baylor and TCU were ahead of OSU in the last few CFB rankings. All the talk was about how to decide between the frogs and the bears, and then Urban came along and absolutely clobbered Wisconsin in the Big10 title game. I've followed football for long enough to know that if Indiana had been the team clobbering Wiscy in the title game, it wouldn't have been enough to put the Hoosiers in the playoff.

    On occasion, I find people like you who believe a committee consisting of guys like Frank Beamer and Ronnie Lott is able to be completely, inhumanly impartial. It's a weird fantasy that I don't understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Well, that and the "paranoia" of a million other fans and dozens of sports journalists who wrote about it at the time. Baylor and TCU were ahead of OSU in the last few CFB rankings. All the talk was about how to decide between the frogs and the bears, and then Urban came along and absolutely clobbered Wisconsin in the Big10 title game. I've followed football for long enough to know that if Indiana had been the team clobbering Wiscy in the title game, it wouldn't have been enough to put the Hoosiers in the playoff.

    On occasion, I find people like you who believe a committee consisting of guys like Frank Beamer and Ronnie Lott is able to be completely, inhumanly impartial. It's a weird fantasy that I don't understand.
    Ha! No, I'm the one here grounded in what has happened and not hypothetical or hyperbole.

    So far, the committee has shown that they favor teams who win a p5 conference title over teams who don't. That works in conjunction with their favor of teams who have 1 or fewer losses over teams with two or more. If we stay/get to the positive side of those metrics; we will be in barring a few scenarios.

    I hope we get to see who is right; our floor would be the rose Bowl. And that would be one heck of a season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahsMrSports View Post
    I hope we get to see who is right; our floor would be the rose Bowl. And that would be one heck of a season.
    I'm not sure we can see who is right. But I do agree with you that the SEC will not get two teams in if Oregon, Utah, or Oklahoma is 12-1. I do worry that they will pick Oklahoma over Utah in that scenario, in part due to Oklahoma's brand. I don't think that's a crazy or paranoid concern at all in any system that is not run by computers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    I'm not sure we can see who is right. But I do agree with you that the SEC will not get two teams in if Oregon, Utah, or Oklahoma is 12-1. I do worry that they will pick Oklahoma over Utah in that scenario, in part due to Oklahoma's brand. I don't think that's a crazy or paranoid concern at all in any system that is not run by computers.
    Fair enough.

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    Oregon continues to kick itself over its massive Auburn choke job. Auburn is so bad. They are the only top 10 team that I would not be nervous to play against.

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    Minnesota loses. I guess they still control their playoff destiny, but no one really thinks it's happening.

    Bama loses Tua. Too bad for the kid, but that should put the nail in the coffin of the Bama playoff hopes.

    Texas loses, which will cost Oklahoma a top 25 win. KState loses, so Oklahoma's loss is no longer to a top 15 team.

    Not chaos, but it's been a decent day for the Pac-12 hopes. Now let's take care of business!

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    Still at 7 in the playoff. If we win out, the only thing keeping us out is LSU losing to Georgia. Having auburn beat Bama for insurance would be nice too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahsMrSports View Post
    Still at 7 in the playoff. If we win out, the only thing keeping us out is LSU losing to Georgia. Having auburn beat Bama for insurance would be nice too.
    Hinton agrees with you for the most part. He believes that a 12-1 Ohio State could also get in before us. He also has us right next to Oklahoma in the pecking order, so that could flip if OU beats Baylor by 400 points in the rematch.


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    It will help if the Utes can win three games in a row now by eye-raising margins. Like Urban did that season he won the NC at Ohio State. He was on the outside looking in with on loss, then pulverized Wisconsin (Gary Anderson) in the Big 10 title game 59-0. Then they just kept rolling over Alabama and Oregon. Gary Anderson never recovered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    It will help if the Utes can win three games in a row now by eye-raising margins. Like Urban did that season he won the NC at Ohio State. He was on the outside looking in with on loss, then pulverized Wisconsin (Gary Anderson) in the Big 10 title game 59-0. Then they just kept rolling over Alabama and Oregon. Gary Anderson never recovered.
    Agree, and this works for Oregon, Oklahoma, Baylor, and maybe Alabama as well. It could work for or against OSU/LSU if they don't win their conferences. Say Georgia beats LSU 52-7. Are they really gonna pick a team that gets routed in their conference title game?

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