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  1. #121
    Great win tonight. USC has tired legs. Btw Talk about underperforming. USC has the best talent in the conference and they will end up 6th maybe 7th
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  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    Great win tonight. USC has tired legs. Btw Talk about underperforming. USC has the best talent in the conference and they will end up 6th maybe 7th
    Andy Enfield is a cautionary tale that everyone should be mindful of as we navigate the waters of the "Fire Larry" discourse. Enfield's Florida Gulf Coast team came out of nowhere, won a couple games as a Cinderella in the NCAA and he was the flavor of the month. He's an educated guy that left a lucrative position in business with a super hot wife and everybody wanted him at that point. USC goes out and gets him and the narrative is that USC did such a great job to land Enfield.

    Well, fast forward what 5-6 years now? Enfield has pulled in some really impressive talent and sent several to the NBA (with more to come). And what does he have to show for it? They've pretty much underperformed their talent level for his entire tenure. Have they even won an NCAA game? Larry, who sucks and everyone wants to replace, has owned him as long as he's been at USC. Enfield's won a few here and there but given the talent of the respective teams he should beat Utah more often than not.

    Moral of the story: The flavor of the month coach is often a flash in the pan with not much sustainable. Larry's not getting it done but if/when we make a change let's not just go chasing the shiniest new thing and end up with the next Giac or Boylen (two coaches who had some good things on their resumes but lacked an established track record of head coaching success over a length of time). I hope that if this change happens, whether it be this year or next, that Harlan has an actual plan in place and isn't just throwing booster money around assuming that things will automatically improve. (Also, we don't know if Harlan has an eye for coaching talent and ability to get his guy--his hires at USF did not work out very well).

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    Great win tonight. USC has tired legs. Btw Talk about underperforming. USC has the best talent in the conference and they will end up 6th maybe 7th
    It was great to see us get the win. You could tell we wanted it badly and were working for it, but USC made a couple of runs. Glad we help them off.

  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    Some guy named Armstrong tweeted Thursday from the tv broadcast, to the effect, "you can see this team does not like paying for its coach." True in whole or in part?
    I've seen "doesn't like playing for its coach" before, and I don't see that here. The players seem to love Larry.

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by UBlender View Post
    USC goes out and gets him and the narrative is that USC did such a great job to land Enfield.
    I remember plenty of skeptics (including myself) at the time he was hired.

    (Also, we don't know if Harlan has an eye for coaching talent and ability to get his guy--his hires at USF did not work out very well).
    No one has ever convinced me that there is such a thing as an "eye for coaching talent". I think this is more or less a game of chance. You have guys from mid majors who make the leap successfully and guys who fail. You have assistants who succeed as first time head coaches, and you have guys who flop. I just think a lot of luck is involved.

  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Old Standing ute View Post
    They won’t ever be .
    I don't know how anyone could say with such certitude that UCLA "won't ever be great." A top five tradition, in the middle of the best recruiting grounds in the nation, one of the country's most glamourous campuses, five star academics. All they have needed is a real coach, and they appear to have one now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    I don't know how anyone could say with such certitude that UCLA "won't ever be great." A top five tradition, in the middle of the best recruiting grounds in the nation, one of the country's most glamourous campuses, five star academics. All they have needed is a real coach, and they appear to have one now.
    I don't know how good Cronin is as a recruiter but if he's even just average, UCLA will be a power again. They could easily win the conference tournament this year and a game or two in the big dance.

  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    I don't know how anyone could say with such certitude that UCLA "won't ever be great." A top five tradition, in the middle of the best recruiting grounds in the nation, one of the country's most glamourous campuses, five star academics. All they have needed is a real coach, and they appear to have one now.
    He was talking about WSU, though.

  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    I don't know how good Cronin is as a recruiter but if he's even just average, UCLA will be a power again. They could easily win the conference tournament this year and a game or two in the big dance.
    I think they win out and win the regular season title.
    "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

    "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

  10. #130
    So Where the conference finish? Team - current record - final games - Prediction
    ASU - 10-4 - @ Socal, Wash - 3-1 loss to @UCLA
    Oregon - 10-5 - Ore st, Nocals - 3-0
    Colo - 10-5 - @ Nocals, @Utah - 3-0
    UCLA - 10-5 - Zonas @USC - 3-0
    Arizona - 9-5 @ Socal Wash - 3-1 loss @UCLA
    USC - 8-7 Zonas UCLA - 0-3 Lose to Ariz, ASU & UCLA
    Stanford - 7-7 Mtns, @ Oregons - 1-3)lose to Utah, Colo, Oregon
    Utah - 6-9 - @ Nocals, Colo - 2-1 lose to Colorardo
    Cal - 5-9 - Mtns , @Oregons - 0-4 lose Colo, Utah, Oregon, Oregon st
    Oregon St - 5-10 @ Oregon, Nocals - 1-2 lose to Oregon & Stanford
    Wazzu - 5-10 - @ Wash, @ Zonas - 0-3 lose to Washington, AZ and ASU
    Washington 3-12 - Wazzu, @ Zonas - 1-2 Lose to AZ and ASU

    that puts the seeding as follows after tiebreakers
    1. Oregon
    2. UCLA
    3. Colorado
    4. ASU
    5. Arizona
    6. Utah
    7. USC
    8. Stanford
    9. Oregon st
    10. Cal
    11. Wazzu
    12. Washington
    "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

    "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

  11. #131
    You know, folks like to get mad at Larry...but how about the waste of a season that Oregon St. has had? All that upperclassmen talent with Tinkle and Thompson and Kelly and they're likely to finish in the 9-11 range. Crazy.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

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  12. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    So Where the conference finish? Team - current record - final games - Prediction
    ASU - 10-4 - @ Socal, Wash - 3-1 loss to @UCLA
    Oregon - 10-5 - Ore st, Nocals - 3-0
    Colo - 10-5 - @ Nocals, @Utah - 3-0
    UCLA - 10-5 - Zonas @USC - 3-0
    Arizona - 9-5 @ Socal Wash - 3-1 loss @UCLA
    USC - 8-7 Zonas UCLA - 0-3 Lose to Ariz, ASU & UCLA
    Stanford - 7-7 Mtns, @ Oregons - 1-3)lose to Utah, Colo, Oregon
    Utah - 6-9 - @ Nocals, Colo - 2-1 lose to Colorardo
    Cal - 5-9 - Mtns , @Oregons - 0-4 lose Colo, Utah, Oregon, Oregon st
    Oregon St - 5-10 @ Oregon, Nocals - 1-2 lose to Oregon & Stanford
    Wazzu - 5-10 - @ Wash, @ Zonas - 0-3 lose to Washington, AZ and ASU
    Washington 3-12 - Wazzu, @ Zonas - 1-2 Lose to AZ and ASU

    that puts the seeding as follows after tiebreakers
    1. Oregon
    2. UCLA
    3. Colorado
    4. ASU
    5. Arizona
    6. Utah
    7. USC
    8. Stanford
    9. Oregon st
    10. Cal
    11. Wazzu
    12. Washington
    Utah winning two road games, likely without Rylan? I wish I could muster that kind of optimism. I think if Rylan is out this week 0-3 is more likely than 2-1 with 1-2 being more likely than either.

  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by UBlender View Post
    Utah winning two road games, likely without Rylan? I wish I could muster that kind of optimism. I think if Rylan is out this week 0-3 is more likely than 2-1 with 1-2 being more likely than either.
    We have already beat those teams and we match up very well with them. I think #gachscratchfever breaks out of his slump
    "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

    "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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