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    The 2020 Conference Play Thread

    The OOC schedule has been put to bed (for about 10 days now).

    The Utes head into their league schedule at 9-3, and, as of this writing, 2 Q1 wins (Kentucky, Minnesota) and 2 Q2 wins (BYU, @Nevada). Their NET ranking is 58, and their KenPom ranking is 109.

    This leads us to conference play, where six of the next seven games will be against NET top 100 teams, starting tonight with Oregon St. in the Huntsman Center.

    Oregon St. is 76 in the NET and has a win over Iowa St (which is now a Q3 win after Iowa St. lost to Florida A&M), and losses to Oklahoma, and Texas A&M. Tres Tinkle and Timmy Allen are the top two scorers in the league to start conference play, so it should be an interesting battle.

    If you believe as I do, that the Utes need to win 8-10 games in conference to potentially make the NCAA Tournament, then tonight is one of those critical games. Utah is a 2 point favorite in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    If you believe as I do, that the Utes need to win 8-10 games in conference to potentially make the NCAA Tournament, then tonight is one of those critical games. Utah is a 2 point favorite in this game.
    I'm surprised we are favored. Tinkle is one of the best players in the conference. Big game for both teams. We have such a brutal start. How many of our first 6 do we need to win in order to still have confidence?

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    So far, so good! Keep it up, Utes. I love when Gach has his aggressive attitude.

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    After decades of coaches saying "we're gonna put the run back in Runnin' Utes," this year's team may actually deliver. Gach and Allen are very good in transition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    After decades of coaches saying "we're gonna put the run back in Runnin' Utes," this year's team may actually deliver. Gach and Allen are very good in transition.
    Counterpoint: we take the shot clock down to 0 on an unhealthy percentage of possessions.

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    #gachscratchfever
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    We rebounded offensively the best we have in probably 3 years

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    I was shocked how soft UW's bigs are. Must be that fancy pants zone that takes the man out of them.

    Battin MVP. Rylan MVP of the last 5 minutes.

    Awful shooting. Awful FTs until the end. Great fight. Never gave up. Some great passing too. Carlson was great in the first half - I think his best game as a Ute.

    So we end our 8 game murderer's row with a 3-5 record. I said 3-5 would be enough for me to keep hoping, so I'm still hoping. Go Utes!

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    Fantastic game to attend in a really ugly sort of way. The Utes shooting was ugly and the officiating was ugly for a good part of the game. Somehow, the boys hung around and just kept competing. They defended the middle/paint well, got their hands on a lot of balls, really fought for rebounds and somehow did enough offensively to hang around. Jones' impact on this team is enormous. Even though his shot was awful tonight, he is so good in the half court handling the ball. While I wanted him to be a little more aggressive throughout the game (like he was late) and it was frustrating to watch them pass up the easy 10-12 footer so much, Jones really kept his composure and, as a result, kept the team composed. He was similar in the Oregon game.

    Anyway, lots to work on but a good win. I can't imagine beating WSU if they shoot anywhere near as bad. If they get that one my hopes for .500 may not be far off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utebiquitous View Post
    Fantastic game to attend in a really ugly sort of way. The Utes shooting was ugly and the officiating was ugly for a good part of the game. Somehow, the boys hung around and just kept competing. They defended the middle/paint well, got their hands on a lot of balls, really fought for rebounds and somehow did enough offensively to hang around. Jones' impact on this team is enormous. Even though his shot was awful tonight, he is so good in the half court handling the ball. While I wanted him to be a little more aggressive throughout the game (like he was late) and it was frustrating to watch them pass up the easy 10-12 footer so much, Jones really kept his composure and, as a result, kept the team composed. He was similar in the Oregon game.

    Anyway, lots to work on but a good win. I can't imagine beating WSU if they shoot anywhere near as bad. If they get that one my hopes for .500 may not be far off.
    I am still surprised that the refs called that last charge on UW. It felt like that type of contact had been called a block (both ways) all night.

    The head-smack flagrant turned the game.
    7 straight FTs without UW getting the ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solon View Post
    I am still surprised that the refs called that last charge on UW. It felt like that type of contact had been called a block (both ways) all night.

    The head-smack flagrant turned the game.
    7 straight FTs without UW getting the ball.
    McDaniels really cost them the game--the stupid flagrant and then a few seconds later fouling Jones on the 3. Both completely unnecessary. Thy had a total loss of composure.

    On the postgame, Larry said he used a coach's challenge to ask them to look at the flagrant foul. Was told he would lose a timeout if he lost the challenge. He said the risk was worth it. Could be the smartest end of game decision Larry has ever made. Kudos on that.

    When Jatunen got called for the block where he was set for half an hour, his left foot was partly inside the circle. Maybe that was the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solon View Post
    What the hey???
    I'm here. I just read more than I write.
    I'm pretty discouraged at the way the season is finishing up. It doesn't feel like we're even close.

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    So Let's Talk Pac-12 Tourney Scenarios: Utah can finish anywhere from 8-11

    Utah has Colorado at home

    Cal 7 wins - @Ore @Oregon St
    Wazzu 6 wins - @Ariz @ASU
    Oregon St 5 wins - Stanford, Cal

    Most likely scenario:
    Utah loses to Colo
    Oregon St beats cal loses to stanford
    Cal loses to both oregon and oregon st
    Wazzu loses to Ariz and ASU

    Cal is the 8th seed
    Utah is the 9th seed (2-1) against wazzu and oregon st
    Wazzu is 10 beat oregon st
    Oregon St is the 11 seed

    If Utah beats colorado and just ore st doesnt sweep and wazzu doenst win a game
    Same seeds as above

    If Utah beats colorado and Ore st sweeps then
    then Ore St is the 8 seed
    Cal is the 9 seed
    Utah is the 10 seed
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    I really don't think it matters, but in most tournaments, the 10 seed is better than the 8/9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    I really don't think it matters, but in most tournaments, the 10 seed is better than the 8/9.
    only thing that matters to me is when they play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solon View Post
    I'm pretty discouraged at the way the season is finishing up. It doesn't feel like we're even close.
    There a strong young nucleus. A good coach could take them places in the next couple of years.
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    The Buffs are in a bit of a free-fall at the moment. 10-4 and first place outright to 10-7, and quite possibly missing a top 4 seed in Vegas.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    The Buffs are in a bit of a free-fall at the moment. 10-4 and first place outright to 10-7, and quite possibly missing a top 4 seed in Vegas.
    We are probably just what the doctor ordered for them. I think we can make it more competitive than it was in Boulder, though. It's senior night!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    We are probably just what the doctor ordered for them. I think we can make it more competitive than it was in Boulder, though. It's senior night!
    You mean senior noontime

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    We are probably just what the doctor ordered for them. I think we can make it more competitive than it was in Boulder, though. It's senior night!
    I'm glad we get to honor Marc Renniger for all his contributions to the program. And people say Larry doesn't have any upperclassmen. Psh.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    The Buffs are in a bit of a free-fall at the moment. 10-4 and first place outright to 10-7, and quite possibly missing a top 4 seed in Vegas.
    I can't help but wonder how much trouble CU is in. Was safely in the field before today. Could potentially get the 5 seed in Vegas and a matchup against the best last-place team in the country, perhaps ever. Could enter Selection Sunday on a five-game losing streak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalPat View Post
    I can't help but wonder how much trouble CU is in. Was safely in the field before today. Could potentially get the 5 seed in Vegas and a matchup against the best last-place team in the country, perhaps ever. Could enter Selection Sunday on a five-game losing streak.
    In Lunardi's latest projection, I think they were in a 7/10 game with ETSU...and ETSU has been running through teams, so they are no joke. Would get SDSU with a win. Either way, CU looked like a team with a decent chance to be around on the second weekend and now they could easily be one and done.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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