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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalPat View Post
    Is there a possibility Greg could be moving on to another school that's an IMG client?
    I would be shocked if that happened. Greg is firmly entrenched in his role with BYU, and he is a die-hard fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kccougar View Post
    I would be shocked if that happened. Greg is firmly entrenched in his role with BYU, and he is a die-hard fan.
    Something he hides so well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalPat View Post
    Is there a possibility Greg could be moving on to another school that's an IMG client?
    No! That is impossible! That is impossible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kccougar View Post
    I would be shocked if that happened. Greg is firmly entrenched in his role with BYU, and he is a die-hard fan.
    Plus he is terrible and why would anyone want him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpfunk View Post
    Plus he is terrible and why would anyone want him.

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    That is the more compelling argument.

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    lol at KSL, I recall when they used to do sports talk radio at night years ago.

    I remember Wrubell had listeners call into the show to spell athletes names for prizes. Such a BYU thing to do. I remember it took 6 or 7 calls for someone to get Dikembe Mutombo correct.

    To Wrubells credit, it did sound like he wanted to kill himself during many of those segments

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    lol at KSL, I recall when they used to do sports talk radio at night years ago.

    I remember Wrubell had listeners call into the show to spell athletes names for prizes. Such a BYU thing to do. I remember it took 6 or 7 calls for someone to get Dikembe Mutombo correct.

    To Wrubells credit, it did sound like he wanted to kill himself during many of those segments
    I am about 90% sure that bill Riley got his start in this market by replacing wrubell on that lousy nightly show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kccougar View Post
    I would be shocked if that happened. Greg is firmly entrenched in his role with BYU, and he is a die-hard fan.
    Honest question: is he really?

    Home play-by-play guys are paid to be homers. Bill Reilly plays the part well but is really a fan of Kansas.

    Could Wrubell just be playing the part?

    I honestly don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    Honest question: is he really?

    Home play-by-play guys are paid to be homers. Bill Reilly plays the part well but is really a fan of Kansas.

    Could Wrubell just be playing the part?

    I honestly don't know.
    I'm not sure you could pay anyone to fake that little girl voice he gets when he's excited.

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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I'm not sure you could pay anyone to fake that little girl voice he gets when he's excited.

    You cant fake hyperventilation

  11. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    Honest question: is he really?

    Home play-by-play guys are paid to be homers. Bill Reilly plays the part well but is really a fan of Kansas.

    Could Wrubell just be playing the part?

    I honestly don't know.
    reilly went to KU and wrubell went to byu. I don't think he is faking his enthusiasm for the cougs.
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  12. #222
    What's the deal with Swinney? Isn't he still a big Scout.com guy yet there he is on the radio everyday talking about Utah sports? You have to wonder who's getting screwed the most. 700 because he feels he needs to keep his exclusive content for his paid subscribers or his paid subscribers that are paying $10 a month to read about what he's giving away on the radio for free.

    On a related note, in this Information Age, is paying for sports "insider info" up there with paying for porn?


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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    Honest question: is he really?

    Home play-by-play guys are paid to be homers. Bill Reilly plays the part well but is really a fan of Kansas.

    Could Wrubell just be playing the part?

    I honestly don't know.
    He's definitely a fan:

    As a 17-year-old BYU freshman, Wrubell was instantly swept up by the Cougars' improbable run to the 1984 football national championship. He watched his first college game — BYU at Pitt — on the big screen in the Marriott Center. He was hooked on football and BYU sports.During his first week at school, he asked KBYU for a job. His first assignment was to report on the fencing team. After his mission, he applied for and won a spring semester internship at KSL Radio. He clipped newspaper articles, collected sound bytes and post-game interviews and was rarely heard on the air.
    In the fall, KSL offered him the weekend news anchor position, which called for a 12-hour shift on Saturday and four hours on Sunday. A year later he was hired full time as the overnight news anchor, which he did while finishing his last semester of school and maintaining an exhausting schedule. He worked from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m., then took a bus to Provo and attended class for a few hours that morning while trying and usually failing to stay awake. After an afternoon nap at home, he returned to work. He's been working at KSL since then.
    "I've had one job," says Wrubell.
    In the fall of '92 he began doing sideline reports for KSL, and four years later he drew his first play-by-play assignment when James underwent heart-bypass surgery — the BYU basketball team's 50-point loss at Washington.
    "I remember he came and sat by my bedside and he wanted to know all the little tricks of the trade," recalls James. "He was a very conscientious, bright kid."
    When James retired in 2001, Wrubell took over the football play-by-play duties full time (by then the kid had already been doing basketball play-by-play for four years).
    "Paul showed me how it's done," says Wrubell. "He is the gold standard." Of his own style, Wrubell says, "I don't have the voice some of those other guys have. I compensate with accuracy and reporting."
    On the air, Wrubell leaves no doubt about where his loyalties lie. He seems to come out of his chair for BYU's big plays, nearly shouting into the microphone with a certain take-that intensity.
    "He is a fan, so he does get involved," says Lyons.
    Says Wrubell, "I have struggled with the right way to get excited and not get overbearing. Sometimes it's just the way you sound when you get excited. You yell and scream sometimes. It's genuine. It might be a little much for some people."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-Ute View Post
    On a related note, in this Information Age, is paying for sports "insider info" up there with for paying for porn?
    :spittake:

    Great analogy!

    Did you have to make it while I was drinking my water?

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    http://rockmonster.blogs.deseretnews...mits-to-media/

    I have always appreciated Brad Rock, even when I disagree with him. I love that he is self aware.

    Im curious on how people view this. Does anyone feel cheated by this?

    Speaking of self awareness within the media, Ill never forget 2010. As fall camp was about to get underway, Monson threw on an air tantrum about Whitt issuing a statement saying he was excited for the PAc-12 news, but wouldn't be taking questions on it during camp or during the season. "My constitutional rights! Freedom of speech! The fans have a right!" etc. Perhaps a week later, Jake Scott, Monson's own cohost, was up at fall camp and asked Whitt for his thoughts on the rumors that BYU was going to go independent. Gee, I wonder why they restrict access..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahsMrSports View Post
    http://rockmonster.blogs.deseretnews...mits-to-media/

    I have always appreciated Brad Rock, even when I disagree with him. I love that he is self aware.

    Im curious on how people view this. Does anyone feel cheated by this?

    Speaking of self awareness within the media, Ill never forget 2010. As fall camp was about to get underway, Monson threw on an air tantrum about Whitt issuing a statement saying he was excited for the PAc-12 news, but wouldn't be taking questions on it during camp or during the season. "My constitutional rights! Freedom of speech! The fans have a right!" etc. Perhaps a week later, Jake Scott, Monson's own cohost, was up at fall camp and asked Whitt for his thoughts on the rumors that BYU was going to go independent. Gee, I wonder why they restrict access..............
    This is a yes and no for me. Any time Whit is interviewed, I'm tuning in, no question. On the other hand, the more interviews you grant, the more fodder you give the media to discuss/interpret etc.

    As an example, going into training camp last year for the Redskins, RGIII, having been off-limits to the media for the entire off-season, was allowed to give an interview. In that interview he was asked if he felt he was the best QB on the team, to which he replied that he felt he was and that his goal was to be one of the best in the league, and if you don't believe that about yourself, why are you even playing. This got splattered all over Twitter and the DC sports rags as "RGIII: 'I'm one of the Best QBs in the League." And so it goes...

    Similarly, remember the aftermath of Whit putting in Tommy Grady vs. UCLA? Monson at one point said that Kyle threatened to beat him up...which, no, not even close.

    So yeah, I would love to get a weekly view into how A-Rod is evaluating the QB play, or how Erickson feels about being at Utah on the whole. However, if Kyle has to be guarded to keep the focus and reduce distractions, then, well, I trust him.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    This is a yes and no for me. Any time Whit is interviewed, I'm tuning in, no question. On the other hand, the more interviews you grant, the more fodder you give the media to discuss/interpret etc.

    As an example, going into training camp last year for the Redskins, RGIII, having been off-limits to the media for the entire off-season, was allowed to give an interview. In that interview he was asked if he felt he was the best QB on the team, to which he replied that he felt he was and that his goal was to be one of the best in the league, and if you don't believe that about yourself, why are you even playing. This got splattered all over Twitter and the DC sports rags as "RGIII: 'I'm one of the Best QBs in the League." And so it goes...

    Similarly, remember the aftermath of Whit putting in Tommy Grady vs. UCLA? Monson at one point said that Kyle threatened to beat him up...which, no, not even close.

    So yeah, I would love to get a weekly view into how A-Rod is evaluating the QB play, or how Erickson feels about being at Utah on the whole. However, if Kyle has to be guarded to keep the focus and reduce distractions, then, well, I trust him.
    Monson claimed that Whitt threatened to beat Monson up? or Grady? I dont know how Ive forgotten this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahsMrSports View Post
    Monson claimed that Whitt threatened to beat Monson up? or Grady? I dont know how Ive forgotten this.
    Monson.

    If you recall, Kyle was very testy after that whole flap. Very much in the Jim Boylen "nice of you to show up." Monson ran with it on his radio program.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

  19. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Similarly, remember the aftermath of Whit putting in Tommy Grady vs. UCLA? Monson at one point said that Kyle threatened to beat him up...which, no, not even close.
    Whit threatened to beat up GoMo after Tommy G led us to 44 points over a ranked UCLA team? That seems like an odd sequence of events, although and day is a great day to beat up GoMo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Applejack View Post
    Whit threatened to beat up GoMo after Tommy G led us to 44 points over a ranked UCLA team? That seems like an odd sequence of events, although and day is a great day to beat up GoMo.
    Nope...it was the year before @UCLA. Brett Ratliff had just lead the Utes to tie the game 7-7 (I believe), and Grady went in on the very next series of downs and threw a pick 6 (again, this is all going off a foggy memory at this point). UCLA won 31-10.

    And again, Whit didn't remotely threaten anything. Monson took his comments and ran with them...which is what he do.
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    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahsMrSports View Post
    http://rockmonster.blogs.deseretnews...mits-to-media/

    I have always appreciated Brad Rock, even when I disagree with him. I love that he is self aware.

    Im curious on how people view this. Does anyone feel cheated by this?

    Speaking of self awareness within the media, Ill never forget 2010. As fall camp was about to get underway, Monson threw on an air tantrum about Whitt issuing a statement saying he was excited for the PAc-12 news, but wouldn't be taking questions on it during camp or during the season. "My constitutional rights! Freedom of speech! The fans have a right!" etc. Perhaps a week later, Jake Scott, Monson's own cohost, was up at fall camp and asked Whitt for his thoughts on the rumors that BYU was going to go independent. Gee, I wonder why they restrict access..............
    Just in case anybody was wondering, I am also "off-limits" to the media, so please don't send them my way. I just can't talk to them at the present time. Maybe when my season is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wally View Post
    Just in case anybody was wondering, I am also "off-limits" to the media, so please don't send them my way. I just can't talk to them at the present time. Maybe when my season is over.
    Is this your way of spinning the restraining order they have on you?

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    I was listening to the podcast of Riley's show this morning while working out. He put O'Connell on. Sean was in the news media group asking KW questions. What question did O'Connell ask during his precious opportunity? "Which Ute player would be toughest in a UFC cage match?" He even asked follow-ups when Kyle responded good-naturedly. I couldn't believe it.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I was listening to the podcast of Riley's show this morning while working out. He put O'Connell on. Sean was in the news media group asking KW questions. What question did O'Connell ask during his precious opportunity? "Which Ute player would be toughest in a UFC cage match?" He even asked follow-ups when Kyle responded good-naturedly. I couldn't believe it.
    It's an important question...if you watched the UFC, you'd know that!
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

  25. #235
    I was listening to OC and Swinney on friday evening.

    As they came in from break, they got into a riveting discussion about where they get their hair cut. Then they brought Scott Mitchell on and they started out that interview by asking him where he goes for a hair cut.

    After a few moments of this, they took a detour to something relevant about fall camp. But that was quickly abandoned to continue an earlier discussion about which players on the roster Swinney would be able to beat in the 40 yard dash, including asking Scott for his thoughts on the matter. If I was Scott, I would have just hung up.

    I flipped over to KFAN where Gunther and Ben spent the three minutes I was there making fun of various radio commercials and sound bites.

    It would be nice to have a local sports show that actually put in some effort to compete with Gordon and Spence.

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    And then, out of frustration, I actually go to 1280 and they're talking about . . . off season Jazz moves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahsMrSports View Post
    I was listening to OC and Swinney on friday evening.

    As they came in from break, they got into a riveting discussion about where they get their hair cut. Then they brought Scott Mitchell on and they started out that interview by asking him where he goes for a hair cut.

    After a few moments of this, they took a detour to something relevant about fall camp. But that was quickly abandoned to continue an earlier discussion about which players on the roster Swinney would be able to beat in the 40 yard dash, including asking Scott for his thoughts on the matter. If I was Scott, I would have just hung up.

    I flipped over to KFAN where Gunther and Ben spent the three minutes I was there making fun of various radio commercials and sound bites.

    It would be nice to have a local sports show that actually put in some effort to compete with Gordon and Spence.
    I don't waste my time listening to O'C and Swinney's podcasts. I listen to Riley but fast forward through all the RSL and Jazz stuff.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

  28. #238
    All the 700 hosts plus lexi from lexi and banks on 105.1 concluded the "ESPN 700 dream job" contest today. Basically they've had fans on to try their hand at being a radio host.

    The four professional hosts came off as obnoxious jerks as they berated each contestant and added a bit about how truly hard it is to be a host....yawn.....

  29. #239
    What I don't like about Swinney and OC is that they end at 6pm. Which means they start mailing it in between 5:15 and 5:30. Which means as soon as I get out of work, I don't get any sort of meaningful conversation from them at all.

    What they should do is just replay their first hour from 5-6 if that is what they are going to do. They have the easiest jobs in all of radioland in Utah. They are afternoon, so they get all the news, they end at 6, so they don't have to make up a ton of content every day, and they have a ton of good guests.

    It shouldn't be this hard. Just replay your best interviews from 5:30-6. Whatever. Just top mailing it in so soon.

  30. #240
    Apparently one of the tv media guys asked Whittingham if he roots for BYU when they aren't playing BYU. "Uhhhh...no."

    I also appreciated this campaigning over the weekend.




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