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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    On that note, here is an Eric Foner op-ed yesterday on lee specifically and the causes of the civil war generally. Makes the point that the historical interpretations of "other causes" of the war in part were designed to enoble the southern cause and whitewash the defense of slavery. FWIW.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/28/b...l?mcubz=1&_r=0
    Whatever anyone says, slavery was the sine qua non of the Civil War. No fair-minded and well-informed person can deny that.

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    Interesting piece. It does seem that historians are rethinking Grant's stature as a POTUS.

    Rethinking President Grant (Part One)


    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/rethinking-president-ulysses-grant-stature-rising/

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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    Interesting piece. It does seem that historians are rethinking Grant's stature as a POTUS.

    Rethinking President Grant (Part One)


    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/rethinking-president-ulysses-grant-stature-rising/
    Chernow's biography is one of the best books I have read on a long time. Doesn't whitewash Grant's obliviousness to the scandals around him, but really emphasizes how Grant stuck with reconstruction as long as he could, when many Repubs were ready to give up, and how much responsibility Grant felt for the future of the freed Blacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    Chernow's biography is one of the best books I have read on a long time. Doesn't whitewash Grant's obliviousness to the scandals around him, but really emphasizes how Grant stuck with reconstruction as long as he could, when many Repubs were ready to give up, and how much responsibility Grant felt for the future of the freed Blacks.
    The musical can’t be far behind.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    The Official Civil War Thread

    Sigh. Too many people hanging on to the notion of honoring the Confederacy.

    Mayor announces ‘Confederate Memorial Day.’ A city council member says it should cost him his job.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...nl_most&wpmm=1

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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