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    A Short Stay in Hell

    This book was amazingly disturbing. It really shook me up a bit, but it did help me think about what I want in this life.

    What I really want to know is if wuapimon has read it. I summon thee wuap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperGabers View Post
    This book was amazingly disturbing. It really shook me up a bit, but it did help me think about what I want in this life.

    What I really want to know is if wuapimon has read it. I summon thee wuap!

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    Well? What's it about? You don't expect me to read it, do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GarthUte View Post
    Well? What's it about? You don't expect me to read it, do you?
    http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/07/2...steven-l-peck/

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    Just finished this while I am supposed to be listening to a webinar. It is profoundly affecting. I haven't even begun to sort my thoughts about it out. Go download it, people. It's three bucks and will take only a couple hours to read (100 pages).
    “The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.”
    Carl Sagan

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    Not only have I not read it, I've not heard of it. When yall are done, do you want to loan it to me?

    Also, we need some UB5-specific summon cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wuapinmon View Post
    Not only have I not read it, I've not heard of it. When yall are done, do you want to loan it to me?

    Also, we need some UB5-specific summon cards.
    I'm surprised. It's based on Borges library with all the books that could possibly be written of a certain length. If you have the ability to download books, you can get it from Amazon for $3. Well worth it.
    “The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.”
    Carl Sagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahDan View Post
    I'm surprised. It's based on Borges library with all the books that could possibly be written of a certain length. If you have the ability to download books, you can get it from Amazon for $3. Well worth it.
    Did you, or anyone, find God in its pages?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wuapinmon View Post
    Did you, or anyone, find God in its pages?
    Loaded question.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Is it about LAUte and UD's time at BYu?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
    Is it about LAUte and UD's time at BYu?
    As is often the case in life, I didn't know how bad it was until after I left.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by wuapinmon View Post
    Did you, or anyone, find God in its pages?
    Don't want to spoil it...but no. The premise is that they are in a Zoroastrian hell (which turns out to be the one truth faith) and all one must do to escape the library is find the book that is about their life.
    “The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.”
    Carl Sagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahDan View Post
    Don't want to spoil it...but no. The premise is that they are in a Zoroastrian hell (which turns out to be the one truth faith) and all one must do to escape the library is find the book that is about their life.
    Spoiler alert...come on bro!
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Spoiler alert...come on bro!
    That all comes in the first few pages.
    “The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.”
    Carl Sagan

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    I picked this up over the weekend and read through it. It was pretty interesting. I can certainly see why it appeals to the non-believer, particularly those that were previously LDS. I felt like there were a few parts that missed the mark a little bit, but all in all as a concept, it was an interesting read.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    I picked this up over the weekend and read through it. It was pretty interesting. I can certainly see why it appeals to the non-believer, particularly those that were previously LDS. I felt like there were a few parts that missed the mark a little bit, but all in all as a concept, it was an interesting read.
    The author is a BYU prof. Mormon Stories interviewed him. Episode 400ish. It is not meant at all to be from a nonbelieving perspective. Though I agree it is thought provoking for nonbelievers.

    But what are your thoughts specifically?
    “The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.”
    Carl Sagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahDan View Post
    Don't want to spoil it...but no. The premise is that they are in a Zoroastrian hell (which turns out to be the one truth faith) and all one must do to escape the library is find the book that is about their life.
    Please tell me that there's a magician/mage character somewhere with a son impervious to fire! Please!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wuapinmon View Post
    Please tell me that there's a magician/mage character somewhere with a son impervious to fire! Please!
    You must read it! It's very short.
    “The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.”
    Carl Sagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahDan View Post
    You must read it! It's very short.
    Yeah, I'll get this summer.
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    Just finished it. Brilliant.

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