Let Women Pray

[Jeff Lebowski]

I can't remember all that I've read on this but it seems that the church was moving in a pretty good direction here and then had a major step back. I really think what happened was that the progressive crowd (Stephen L Richards, Hugh B Brown, J Reuben Clark to a degree, Henry Eyring, John Witsoe, etc) died out and then you had an extremely conservative fundamentalist group come in (JFieldingS, Harold B Lee, ETB to a different extent, BRM, etc). BKP is the last remnants of the hard liner group, and from anecdotes I hear his power is real. (I have stories I will not publicly share, but one person told me that "he sits in his office all day and contemplates his power as President of the 12"). I don't mean to disparage anybody here, but it seems clear there was a shift in tone after DOM passed on. Not that anybody is perfect, including them. This affected much more than just women's roles, and I believe most of them were doing what they felt was right.

My guess - and that's all it is - is that the edict forbidding praying and speaking was a result of a literal reading of Paul, and the shift in the 80s and 90s was a direct result of the Sonya Johnson ERA stuff. Quinn indicates that many of the 12 were in favor of the ERA initially but some strong willed and senior leaders shifted that tide.

I am not a BKP fan, but that line really made me laugh. Somebody can read his mind? Impressive.

[Pheidippides]

I am not a BKP fan, but that line really made me laugh. Somebody can read his mind? Impressive.

Hey, don't shoot me! I didn't say it!

[Joe Public]

Give me some time. Rome wasn't built in a day.

:chuckle:

[LA Ute]

(I have stories I will not publicly share, but one person told me that "he sits in his office all day and contemplates his power as President of the 12"). I don't mean to disparage anybody here, but ....

:eyeroll:

[Pheidippides]

:eyeroll:

Are you daring me to post my true thoughts on the matter? I don't think that's in anybody's best interest.

[LA Ute]

Are you daring me to post my true thoughts on the matter? I don't think that's in anybody's best interest.

Nope. There's a huge difference between a tweak and a dare. You have been well and truly tweaked.

[Pheidippides]

Nope. There's a huge difference between a tweak and a dare. You have been well and truly tweaked.

Well, if it's only a tweak, I will leave Mr. Hyde safely hidden. I get tired of that guy - he's really angry a lot.

[SoCalCoug]

I thought the pants protest was beyond stupid...but I'm sure thats just because I am some sort of swine.

I heard this sentiment a lot while the pants protest was going on. I'm curious - for those who feel this way - is it that they went about it the wrong way, or is it the fact that they did it at all was stupid?

[scottie]

Let them pray in Conference, next thing we know they'll be asking for the priesthood:

http://ordainwomen.org/

[wuapinmon]

Let them pray in Conference, next thing we know they'll be asking for the priesthood:

http://ordainwomen.org/

Cool link. Gracias.

[UteBeliever aka Port]

Let them pray in Conference, next thing we know they'll be asking for the priesthood:

http://ordainwomen.org/

Looks like more people agitating faithfully...

http://agitatingfaithfully.org/home

[Mrs. Funk]

Let them pray in Conference, next thing we know they'll be asking for the priesthood:

http://ordainwomen.org/

Oh, no! Anything but that!

[SuperGabers]

This thread has been enjoyable Sully. Thanks for posting.

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[Mrs. Funk]

Does this mean it's official?

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/56...e-lds.html.csp

[Jeff Lebowski]

Does this mean it's official?

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/56...e-lds.html.csp

Looks rock solid. This is what PFS posted on Facebook:

Dear FB friends, My sources for this story are solid. Trust me. I am a professional journalist. I do not go into print with rumors.

[Mrs. Funk]

Looks rock solid. This is what PFS posted on Facebook:

Yeah, I saw that. Pretty cool stuff.