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  1. #391
    Quote Originally Posted by tooblue View Post
    Hey look. If I could watch a Utah game I would but I can't because, well, the PAC12 channel isn't even available on my satellite carrier. It would've been nice to see them play Stanford or Arizona. Oh, well. Next season maybe. I will likely at least get to see them at least once in person next season ... if they do in fact travel to Michigan for a game.
    You should cancel directv and get dish.

  2. #392
    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeUte View Post
    Not really. I think it's funny that a fan of a team whose game was on ESPN News would make fun of another team for being on the PAC 12 Network.
    ESPNNEWS ~ 70M homes. P12 Network ~ 30M homes. In any event, Saturday's game was controlled by our opponent's TV contract, not BYU's.

  3. #393
    We can't beat you, we haven't been able to beat in the past four years...... But our games have an opportunity to be on more television sets than yours. What ever makes you feel better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Lunch View Post
    We can't beat you, we haven't been able to beat in the past four years...... But our games have an opportunity to be on more television sets than yours. What ever makes you feel better.
    Notice he hasn't mentioned how many people actually watch, just the potential

  5. #395
    Quote Originally Posted by Diehard Ute View Post
    Notice he hasn't mentioned how many people actually watch, just the potential
    I am glad you caught that and pointed it out as well. It is also my understanding that the individuals that live on Kolob have access to their games.

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    Tooblue is trolling us but he's doing that in an adorable manner. He's cute as a button, that one. Kccougar is just an otherwise good guy who's fallen under tooblue's corrupting influence.

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  7. #397
    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    Tooblue is trolling us but he's doing that in an adorable manner. He's cute as a button, that one. Kccougar is just an otherwise good guy who's fallen under tooblue's corrupting influence.
    I have to disagree with when you when it comes to old Kccougar and message boards. I am just going to go back to that old teaching that all of our mothers taught us back in the day, if you can't say something nice, don't say nothing at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Lunch View Post
    I have to disagree with when you when it comes to old Kccougar and message boards. I am just going to go back to that old teaching that all of our mothers taught us back in the day, if you can't say something nice, don't say nothing at all.
    I am not saying anything bad about KC and never will. He's occasionally a miserable vomitous mass, but as you know that is a good thing in my book.

    Seriously, I have recently acquired a great distaste for vilifying people on message boards as if they were not even present (when they actually are). Not sure how I picked that up.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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  9. #399
    Quote Originally Posted by tooblue View Post
    Can we even say that Utah is the new Arizona? That now seems like a best case scenario; something to strive for! Ouch. Hey, at least you have score board for now. By the way, the only Utah game I have been able to watch this season is the one against BYU. I hear the PAC12 network is awesome. I will have to take your word for it though.
    Utah is not the new Arizona until the Utes have spent as many years in the cellar as Arizona did until Utah joined the PAC12.

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  10. #400
    Quote Originally Posted by tooblue View Post
    the contract is strong enough the ESPN had to broadcast the game on a nationally available channel accessible on all carriers.
    The truly amazing thing, apparently, according to you, is that BYU's contract is so strong that it even applies to road games. Amazing.

  11. #401
    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeUte View Post
    Not really. I think it's funny that a fan of a team whose game was on ESPN News would make fun of another team for being on the PAC 12 Network.
    You're right. It isn't funny that I couldn't watch the the Utes beat the then #5 ranked team in the country followed by an abysmal loss to Arizona. If those games were on ESPN News then I'd be singing a different tune.

  12. #402
    Quote Originally Posted by Scratch View Post
    The truly amazing thing, apparently, according to you, is that BYU's contract is so strong that it even applies to road games. Amazing.
    All I know is they game was broadcast on a national channel available on ALL carriers. What's truly amazing is that's not true for Utah or the PAC12 network.

  13. #403
    I replied. You dropped your son off at the MTC on the same day my parents dropped my son off. We haven't heard from our boy yet. His Mom is getting a little anxious.

  14. #404
    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Lunch View Post
    We can't beat you, we haven't been able to beat in the past four years...... But our games have an opportunity to be on more television sets than yours. What ever makes you feel better.
    It doesn't make me feel better.

  15. #405
    I love tv smack. Who the fuck cares if you are on in 70 million homes yet no one watches? lol.

    Enjoy Independence BYU fan. Guess what? You might be on more tv sets, but if Utah beats USC this weekend, no one will be talking about BYU/Boise....

  16. #406
    There is no such thing as a BYU football fan... they are all viewership fans, and to be honest, so am I. Nothing gets me as excited as reading Nielsen ratings and speculating about ESPN contracts.

    And let's be honest, if guys with names like tooblue and kccougar don't think they'd switch over to Dish if the mighty Cougars battled the Vandals exclusively there, they aren't themselves being entirely honest.

    But they do have scoreboard on the fact that at least for the duration of the contract they'll be able to catch BYU late Friday nights on a SD channel sandwiched between a bunch of spanish channels, well we are going to have to live with that defeat. And we won't dispute the fact that it is a channel available to over 70M viewers, just like we won't dispute the fact their above ground pools can hold 60 people... but it still doesn't mean anyone is stopping by.

  17. #407
    Quote Originally Posted by Utah View Post
    I love tv smack. Who the fuck cares if you are on in 70 million homes yet no one watches? lol.

    Enjoy Independence BYU fan. Guess what? You might be on more tv sets, but if Utah beats USC this weekend, no one will be talking about BYU/Boise....

  18. #408
    Oh, and I'll just leave this here to remind you all that sometimes viewership isn't a good thing:


  19. #409
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    There is no such thing as a BYU football fan... they are all viewership fans, and to be honest, so am I. Nothing gets me as excited as reading Nielsen ratings and speculating about ESPN contracts.

    And let's be honest, if guys with names like tooblue and kccougar don't think they'd switch over to Dish if the mighty Cougars battled the Vandals exclusively there, they aren't themselves being entirely honest.

    But they do have scoreboard on the fact that at least for the duration of the contract they'll be able to catch BYU late Friday nights on a SD channel sandwiched between a bunch of spanish channels, well we are going to have to live with that defeat. And we won't dispute the fact that it is a channel available to over 70M viewers, just like we won't dispute the fact their above ground pools can hold 60 people... but it still doesn't mean anyone is stopping by.
    Except for last week's game was at 3:30. Primetime Saturday afternoon football on a nationally distributed sports channel available on ALL carriers. The reality is not one single argument changes the fact that I can't watch Utah play, even against the #5 ranked team in the country! Seriously, Utah isn't the new Arizona. They are new old Utah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    Oh, and I'll just leave this here to remind you all that sometimes viewership isn't a good thing:

    Oh, dear.

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    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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  21. #411
    Quote Originally Posted by tooblue View Post
    Except for last week's game was at 3:30. Primetime Saturday afternoon football on a nationally distributed sports channel available on ALL carriers. The reality is not one single argument changes the fact that I can't watch Utah play, even against the #5 ranked team in the country! Seriously, Utah isn't the new Arizona. They are new old Utah.
    The reality is not one single argument changes the fact that I can't watch BYU play, even against Idaho State! But that is because I don't have cable TV.

    If BYU fans can't honestly sit back and look at the trajectories of the two programs and not see they are going in divergent ways (and here's a hint, it isn't good for BYU) then what is the point of arguing?

    Don't worry, it is natural, I think we all spent time in high school trying to convince ourselves that we were better looking than we actually were.

  22. #412
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    The reality is not one single argument changes the fact that I can't watch BYU play, even against Idaho State! But that is because I don't have cable TV.

    If BYU fans can't honestly sit back and look at the trajectories of the two programs and not see they are going in divergent ways (and here's a hint, it isn't good for BYU) then what is the point of arguing?

    Don't worry, it is natural, I think we all spent time in high school trying to convince ourselves that we were better looking than we actually were.

    He knows this. So does KCCougar. That's why they are implementing TV schmack. They are cute. Just like USU (who also plays a lot on an ESPN network)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooblue View Post
    Except for last week's game was at 3:30. Primetime Saturday afternoon football on a nationally distributed sports channel available on ALL carriers. The reality is not one single argument changes the fact that I can't watch Utah play, even against the #5 ranked team in the country! Seriously, Utah isn't the new Arizona. They are new old Utah.
    Which makes the fact that no one watches even more comical...but maybe someday you can be like the Aggies

    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogstv...essee.html.csp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diehard Ute View Post
    Which makes the fact that no one watches even more comical...but maybe someday you can be like the Aggies

    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogstv...essee.html.csp
    That's probably why our "crummy" TV contract garners our school 3 times as much money as BYU's TV contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diehard Ute View Post
    Which makes the fact that no one watches even more comical...but maybe someday you can be like the Aggies

    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogstv...essee.html.csp
    Ouch.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    Oh, and I'll just leave this here to remind you all that sometimes viewership isn't a good thing:

    I think they're goofing off.
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  27. #417
    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    I think they're goofing off.
    I would hope so. And it is a very BYU culture thing... the uber-goofy humor. I remember visiting friends there while in college and feeling as if I had gone back in time to high school... a bunch of guys acting as nerdy as possible to impress women the only way they knew how. So there is certainly that cultural aspect to it.

    I would say if I was Kodiak going up for a recruit against BYU I might just find a way for them to come across that video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    I think they're goofing off.
    Doubt it. It's Provo, things that occurred in 1984 are just starting to become popular there.

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    Utah might be the new Arizona,

    but BYU has become the new:

    UCF, FIU, Air Force, Boise, Fresno, Middle Tennesse St, Utah State, San Jose State, Nevada, SDSU, Temple & Cincy (a.k.a. - Teams that play on Friday Night).

    Enjoy that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    Utah might be the new Arizona,

    but BYU has become the new:

    UCF, FIU, Air Force, Boise, Fresno, Middle Tennesse St, Utah State, San Jose State, Nevada, SDSU, Temple & Cincy (a.k.a. - Teams that play on Friday Night).

    Enjoy that.
    OK, that one's going to leave a mark.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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