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    I Wish I Knew How to Quit You - The BYU Sports Thread

    I stumbled across this. It’s fascinating. I almost never read comments to sports stories in the Utah papers, but I looked at the first 3-4 to this one. So interesting on so many levels, especially the way some BYU fans see their place in the world.

    Dick Harmon: If NCAA hits BYU this hard, what's it going to do when FBI case is resolved with collegiate bluebloods?

    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/...luebloods.html

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I stumbled across this. It’s fascinating. I almost never read comments to sports stories in the Utah papers, but I looked at the first 3-4 to this one. So interesting on so many levels, especially the way some BYU fans see their place in the world.

    Dick Harmon: If NCAA hits BYU this hard, what's it going to do when FBI case is resolved with collegiate bluebloods?

    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/...luebloods.html
    "Hit this hard"? I don't see this as a severe penalty. Just one scholarship and no postseason ban. Barely affects the program at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    "Hit this hard"? I don't see this as a severe penalty. Just one scholarship and no postseason ban. Barely affects the program at all.

    This is a fan base that lives off a 34 year old “national championship”. Having to give up wins is their worst nightmare


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    Lol.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-Ute View Post
    Lol.




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    That's fantastic. I assume it was intentional. Funny stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-Ute View Post
    Lol.




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    Lol, that is great. I love this kind of stuff in the rivalry. Hopefully both AD’s can have fun with it.

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    I recognize the street; it is around the corner from us and my kids played in that house all the time growing up. Maybe I can scarf some free stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    I recognize the street; it is around the corner from us and my kids played in that house all the time growing up. Maybe I can scarf some free stuff.
    He told us Saturday that he was moving into your neighborhood. You're now on intel duty.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    I am glad they finally found a use for the HD truck.

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    https://twitter.com/gregwrubell/stat...211661825?s=19

    It was funny and then Greg Wrubell got involved

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    Theres no end to Wrubells pedantry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    https://twitter.com/gregwrubell/stat...211661825?s=19

    It was funny and then Greg Wrubell got involved
    Who wants to bet we can go back less than 100 tweets of Wrubbel's to find a grammatical, spelling or punctuation error?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    Who wants to bet we can go back less than 100 tweets of Wrubbel's to find a grammatical, spelling or punctuation error?
    Probably, but that's a job I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. Clockwork Orange territory.

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    Pretty classless for The Voice of the Cougars to make fun of the rival’s AD.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    Pretty classless for The Voice of the Cougars to make fun of the rival’s AD.
    On another note, can someone please explain to me how Holmoe, who has presided over the current state of the Coogs, seems to escape virtually all criticism from their fans? I'm of the opinion that he might be the worst AD in the country for what he has done, and should have been fired long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    On another note, can someone please explain to me how Holmoe, who has presided over the current state of the Coogs, seems to escape virtually all criticism from their fans? I'm of the opinion that he might be the worst AD in the country for what he has done, and should have been fired long ago.
    The powers that be like him a lot?

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    The powers that be like him a lot?
    So are we talking The power or someone lower?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diehard Ute View Post
    So are we talking The power or someone lower?


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    Doctrine says they are virtually one and the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    On another note, can someone please explain to me how Holmoe, who has presided over the current state of the Coogs, seems to escape virtually all criticism from their fans? I'm of the opinion that he might be the worst AD in the country for what he has done, and should have been fired long ago.
    he wins the AD Halloween costume contest.
    13 years running.

    https://twitter.com/byuroc/status/793207724838227968

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    he wins the AD Halloween costume contest.
    13 years running.

    https://twitter.com/byuroc/status/793207724838227968
    How many Deseret Duel points is this contest worth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    On another note, can someone please explain to me how Holmoe, who has presided over the current state of the Coogs, seems to escape virtually all criticism from their fans? I'm of the opinion that he might be the worst AD in the country for what he has done, and should have been fired long ago.
    He is the best AD in history. He needs a lifetime contract. His move to pull them out of a conference (with help from Secret Agent Samuelson), plus his ability to scare away other conferences (Big 12) with his shrewd negotiation tactics is impressive. I mean, who does Texas think they are? UT's $5B endowment and $200M in annual revenue is small potatoes compared to byu-P's Corporate Mormon Jesus dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diehard Ute View Post
    So are we talking The power or someone lower?
    It’s never been clear to me.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    I think if the Utes beat Colorado and the Ducks beat ASU on Saturday, then the Utes should rest all of their starters vs. BYU to get ready for the CCG.

    Turn this game from a draining, late-season distraction with a ton of potential for injuries into a late-season re-focus and get healthy almost-bye week.
    A loss to the byu doesn't matter with the Rose Bowl on the line.

    It would shift playing the BYU game from a disadvantage into an advantage vs. the Pac-North champion, IMO.



    I'm hesitant to post this for fear of karma and jinxing and hubris and all the times I've been let down by a Utah team close to winning something big, but Utah and Oregon both winning is a realistic scenario.
    σοφῷ ἀνδρὶ Ἑλλὰς πάντα.
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    Sr Day.
    Last home game.
    Last game in front of families.
    Still need to improve the record to get the best possible bowl game (if not Rose). Vegas Bowl is not impossible.
    Kids are all competitors.
    Embarrass that other team.
    The byu of Provo has a solid Defense and a win is far from guaranteed.

    This is the start of a very long list of reasons why benching the starters I'd a non-starter.

    That said, I would tell Covey to Fair Catch all 9 of the punts (and the two kickoffs the Cougars get - the one to start the 2nd half, and the one after they finally get on the scoreboard with a garbage time FG). Maybe sit Chase after the 3rd quarter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    Who wants to bet we can go back less than 100 tweets of Wrubbel's to find a grammatical, spelling or punctuation error?
    Just needed a little patience. The wording choice in this is awful.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-Ute View Post
    Just needed a little patience. The wording choice in this is awful.




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    It's not easy wording obscure stats with multiple layers to them. Greg probably has the most practice doing it of anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solon View Post
    I think if the Utes beat Colorado and the Ducks beat ASU on Saturday, then the Utes should rest all of their starters vs. BYU to get ready for the CCG........

    Wait, do we even play BYU this year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mUUser View Post
    Wait, do we even play BYU this year?
    Only for two quarters.

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    LOL

    I am really loving this site.

    https://thedailyfrick.com/kyle-whitt...ruiting-trail/

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    So am I!

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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