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    We have a white mini schnauzer that we got from the local pound - best walking partner I've ever had. He keeps me going out EVERY day. He meets me at the door when I get home from work, looking at me with the "Why aren't you changed and Why haven't we left yet" look.

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    We are going to have to put his girl down this week. She is only 4 and is healthy and is the sweetest dog you could imagine 99% of the time. However, she has a dark side. She is a rescue and was abused early in her life. She is very anxious and her fight or flight is all fight. She has gotten into multiple fights with our older lab over the last 3 years we've had her and we have worked with her a lot and thought we were past it (despite trips to the vet ER and human ER ... my finger got nicked pretty bad once).

    In fact, they went a whole year without fighting. But starting last month, it started back up. No harm no foul for the first few (the family has become adept at the right way to break them up ... the trick is to grab them by their hind legs like a wheelbarrow). Anyway, this Friday morning my wife's hand got in the way ... the dog though she had the other dog and wouldn't let go ... she gets completely out of her mind when she is like this. Anyway my wife ended up with five stitches and a broken metacarpal ... hand surgeon consultation is today to find out if it needs surgery ... ER thought it would.

    Give that this is the second on the record bite issue (ER calls the cops) animal control may force the issue but even if not we have come to the painful conclusion that putting her down will be best. Rescues and the pound don't even try to adopt out dogs that have aggressive history, not to mention that with her issues a place like that would be terribly traumatic. So she's suffer for 48 hours or however long it is only to end up with the same fate.

    We are heartbroken about it because she really is a sweet dog ... but don't really see an alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMCoug View Post

    We are going to have to put his girl down this week. She is only 4 and is healthy and is the sweetest dog you could imagine 99% of the time. However, she has a dark side. She is a rescue and was abused early in her life. She is very anxious and her fight or flight is all fight. She has gotten into multiple fights with our older lab over the last 3 years we've had her and we have worked with her a lot and thought we were past it (despite trips to the vet ER and human ER ... my finger got nicked pretty bad once).

    In fact, they went a whole year without fighting. But starting last month, it started back up. No harm no foul for the first few (the family has become adept at the right way to break them up ... the trick is to grab them by their hind legs like a wheelbarrow). Anyway, this Friday morning my wife's hand got in the way ... the dog though she had the other dog and wouldn't let go ... she gets completely out of her mind when she is like this. Anyway my wife ended up with five stitches and a broken metacarpal ... hand surgeon consultation is today to find out if it needs surgery ... ER thought it would.

    Give that this is the second on the record bite issue (ER calls the cops) animal control may force the issue but even if not we have come to the painful conclusion that putting her down will be best. Rescues and the pound don't even try to adopt out dogs that have aggressive history, not to mention that with her issues a place like that would be terribly traumatic. So she's suffer for 48 hours or however long it is only to end up with the same fate.

    We are heartbroken about it because she really is a sweet dog ... but don't really see an alternative.
    FM, I am so sorry. That's such a tough thing to have to do. I can only imagine. If you feel like it, let us know how it goes. This is a good place for listening dog-lover ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMCoug View Post
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    We are going to have to put his girl down this week. She is only 4 and is healthy and is the sweetest dog you could imagine 99% of the time. However, she has a dark side. She is a rescue and was abused early in her life. She is very anxious and her fight or flight is all fight. She has gotten into multiple fights with our older lab over the last 3 years we've had her and we have worked with her a lot and thought we were past it (despite trips to the vet ER and human ER ... my finger got nicked pretty bad once).

    In fact, they went a whole year without fighting. But starting last month, it started back up. No harm no foul for the first few (the family has become adept at the right way to break them up ... the trick is to grab them by their hind legs like a wheelbarrow). Anyway, this Friday morning my wife's hand got in the way ... the dog though she had the other dog and wouldn't let go ... she gets completely out of her mind when she is like this. Anyway my wife ended up with five stitches and a broken metacarpal ... hand surgeon consultation is today to find out if it needs surgery ... ER thought it would.

    Give that this is the second on the record bite issue (ER calls the cops) animal control may force the issue but even if not we have come to the painful conclusion that putting her down will be best. Rescues and the pound don't even try to adopt out dogs that have aggressive history, not to mention that with her issues a place like that would be terribly traumatic. So she's suffer for 48 hours or however long it is only to end up with the same fate.

    We are heartbroken about it because she really is a sweet dog ... but don't really see an alternative.
    That's heart breaking FM. But, I agree. There really is no alternative.

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    Here is my little pup. She is a labradoodle. Her name is Liberty as she was born on the 4th of July. She has been the best dog I have ever owned. She is 7 months now.

    When we first got her...




    Now...



    She needs a haircut, but we love the long hair. Everyone calls her monster.

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    Labradoodles are supposed to be great. I'd like to have one, if we can fit another pup into our lives.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunk tank View Post
    Here is my little pup. She is a labradoodle. Her name is Liberty as she was born on the 4th of July. She has been the best dog I have ever owned. She is 7 months now.

    When we first got her...




    Now...



    She needs a haircut, but we love the long hair. Everyone calls her monster.

    Rumor has it that they do not shed...is that correct. I love the long hair.

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    Meet Zoe. She is eight years old ...

    This past September Zoe had quite the adventure. My boys love to take her into the woods and to walk along the creek, literally a stone's throw from our front door. The salmon were spawning. They didn't take kindly to Zoe swimming through their spawning beds:



    We took her to the vet. In order to ensure the wounds would drain she required surgery:



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    A week later with the help of the Scouts we got Zoe some revenge ... This is the fish my son caught. It took him 15 minutes to bring it to the shore where we could net it. He is in the U of U red sweatshirt. His grand mother in Salt Lake tries to make certain all of my boys have some red in their wardrobe. No, that is not me in the picture. The fellow in waders is a fishing expert and the brother of our Scout leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooblue View Post
    This past September Zoe had quite the adventure. My boys love to take her into the woods and to walk along the creek, literally a stone's throw from our front door. The salmon were spawning. They didn't take kindly to Zoe swimming through their spawning beds:



    We took her to the vet. In order to ensure the wounds would drain she required surgery:


    Holy S*!t! I am now terrified of salmon. I thought piranhas were the only fish that could do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooblue View Post
    This past September Zoe had quite the adventure. My boys love to take her into the woods and to walk along the creek, literally a stone's throw from our front door. The salmon were spawning. They didn't take kindly to Zoe swimming through their spawning beds:

    We took her to the vet. In order to ensure the wounds would drain she required surgery:
    Poor girl had to wear the "cone of shame." She looks as unhappy about that as our dog did. Glad she's all better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN Phat View Post
    Rumor has it that they do not shed...is that correct. I love the long hair.
    Mostly correct. She sheds very very little, but she is a 1st gen labradoodle (dad was a lab, mom a poodle). Multi-gen labradoodles (doodle bred to a doodle)typically do not shed at all. My wife has severe allergies to pet hair and dander. The shedding was one of the deciding factors in getting a Labradoodle for us. The wife has had no issues at all.
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    Public service announcement: Especially for those in California. Sago Palms are potentially lethal to dogs. The other day, our 7 month old Basset Hound ate some Sago Palm seeds. We called the vet. The response was, "Get her in here immediately!"

    Sophie is fine, but only because quick action was taken. The vet pumped her stomach, administered a charcoal treatment and other meds, and kept her overnight for observation. It very likely saved her life. Another dog died earlier the same day from Sago Palm seeds.

    Here's a local news story on it from earlier this year:

    http://www.10news.com/news/pet-owner...to-pets-050213
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    Quote Originally Posted by San Diego Ute Fan View Post
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    Public service announcement: Especially for those in California. Sago Palms are potentially lethal to dogs. The other day, our 7 month old Basset Hound ate some Sago Palm seeds. We called the vet. The response was, "Get her in here immediately!"

    Sophie is fine, but only because quick action was taken. The vet pumped her stomach, administered a charcoal treatment and other meds, and kept her overnight for observation. It very likely saved her life. Another dog died earlier the same day from Sago Palm seeds.

    Here's a local news story on it from earlier this year:

    http://www.10news.com/news/pet-owner...to-pets-050213
    Wow, SDUF, a close call. Glad it worked out. Here's a bit more on Sago Palms and pets:

    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/emergen...y-cause-death/

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    We have a new puppy, a mini Australian Shepherd. We wondered how our current full-size Aussie would aceept her. So far, so good:

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    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMCoug View Post
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    We are going to have to put his girl down this week. She is only 4 and is healthy and is the sweetest dog you could imagine 99% of the time. However, she has a dark side. She is a rescue and was abused early in her life. She is very anxious and her fight or flight is all fight. She has gotten into multiple fights with our older lab over the last 3 years we've had her and we have worked with her a lot and thought we were past it (despite trips to the vet ER and human ER ... my finger got nicked pretty bad once).

    In fact, they went a whole year without fighting. But starting last month, it started back up. No harm no foul for the first few (the family has become adept at the right way to break them up ... the trick is to grab them by their hind legs like a wheelbarrow). Anyway, this Friday morning my wife's hand got in the way ... the dog though she had the other dog and wouldn't let go ... she gets completely out of her mind when she is like this. Anyway my wife ended up with five stitches and a broken metacarpal ... hand surgeon consultation is today to find out if it needs surgery ... ER thought it would.

    Give that this is the second on the record bite issue (ER calls the cops) animal control may force the issue but even if not we have come to the painful conclusion that putting her down will be best. Rescues and the pound don't even try to adopt out dogs that have aggressive history, not to mention that with her issues a place like that would be terribly traumatic. So she's suffer for 48 hours or however long it is only to end up with the same fate.

    We are heartbroken about it because she really is a sweet dog ... but don't really see an alternative.
    Wow, that sucks FM. She had come so far. She was a nervous nelly the first time I saw her but this last time Tick and I were there she was awesome!!! Im bummed about this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunk tank View Post
    Wow, that sucks FM. She had come so far. She was a nervous nelly the first time I saw her but this last time Tick and I were there she was awesome!!! Im bummed about this...
    That's what sucks so much about this. We really thought she was over the hump. I pretty much blame myself on this. I started an out of state project in January where I am only coming home on weekends. A couple of weeks into this is when the fights started back up, after a full year of no problems. I think my absence freaked her out.

    There is some possible good news though. I called the humane society today to talk about euthanasia and found out that she might be adoptable after all. I had read online that they don't even try to place dogs with an aggressive past. But she said they sometimes have older couples without kids or other pets who are looking for an older dog so they don't have to raise a puppy. That would be the ideal situation for her. She is a great dog except around other dogs. Well trained, eager to please, your typical lab. I left a message with the right person at the Humane Society so we will see. Thoughts and prayers for her (and my 11 yr. old daughter who is quite distraught) are appreciated.

    Also, apparently the 10 day quarantine period after a bite that draws blood is mandatory. So if we took her in this week they couldn't / wouldn't put her down until that time is up anyway. So we are just keeping her separate from the other dog at home for the 10 days and exploring the options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMCoug View Post
    That's what sucks so much about this. We really thought she was over the hump. I pretty much blame myself on this. I started an out of state project in January where I am only coming home on weekends. A couple of weeks into this is when the fights started back up, after a full year of no problems. I think my absence freaked her out.

    There is some possible good news though. I called the humane society today to talk about euthanasia and found out that she might be adoptable after all. I had read online that they don't even try to place dogs with an aggressive past. But she said they sometimes have older couples without kids or other pets who are looking for an older dog so they don't have to raise a puppy. That would be the ideal situation for her. She is a great dog except around other dogs. Well trained, eager to please, your typical lab. I left a message with the right person at the Humane Society so we will see. Thoughts and prayers for her (and my 11 yr. old daughter who is quite distraught) are appreciated.

    Also, apparently the 10 day quarantine period after a bite that draws blood is mandatory. So if we took her in this week they couldn't / wouldn't put her down until that time is up anyway. So we are just keeping her separate from the other dog at home for the 10 days and exploring the options.
    Well it's done. Took her to the Humane Society today. They will do an evaluation to see if she is adoptable. If so, they have a 100% adoption rate. If not ...

    That really, really, sucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMCoug View Post
    Well it's done. Took her to the Humane Society today. They will do an evaluation to see if she is adoptable. If so, they have a 100% adoption rate. If not ...

    That really, really, sucked.
    Sorry, FM. Hoping for the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FMCoug View Post
    Well it's done. Took her to the Humane Society today. They will do an evaluation to see if she is adoptable. If so, they have a 100% adoption rate. If not ...

    That really, really, sucked.
    I feel for ya, FM. I'd hate having to do that. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMCoug View Post
    Well it's done. Took her to the Humane Society today. They will do an evaluation to see if she is adoptable. If so, they have a 100% adoption rate. If not ...

    That really, really, sucked.
    So the family is adjusting, slowly. My youngest daughter (11) was really close to this dog and has taken it the hardest. Yesterday I found her in the living room, holding the dog's collar and sobbing.

    And of course the other dog is totally confused. The first day or so she didn't seem to notice. But starting last night she seems to be searching all over the place for her "sister". Last night she barked to go outside and I couldn't get her to come back in ... she was literally going into every nook and cranny in the whole yard. They definitely had a love-hate relationship. Kind of like human sisters I guess. But instead of bitching and griping at each other, a fight to the death was the outcome.

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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMCoug View Post
    We are going to have to put his girl down this week. She is only 4 and is healthy and is the sweetest dog you could imagine 99% of the time. However, she has a dark side. She is a rescue and was abused early in her life. She is very anxious and her fight or flight is all fight. She has gotten into multiple fights with our older lab over the last 3 years we've had her and we have worked with her a lot and thought we were past it (despite trips to the vet ER and human ER ... my finger got nicked pretty bad once). ...

    We are heartbroken about it because she really is a sweet dog ... but don't really see an alternative.
    I'm really sorry to hear that FM.

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    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    What is it about human babies and dogs that make such a great social combination? Here's another video:



    My wife thinks they understand each other. I'm not so sure she isn't correct.
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    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    The community church in Bountiful has a sign that has inspiring messages that they put up. The latest is:

    "God helps you become the kind of person your dog thinks you are."
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