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[LA Ute]

I begin my tale with this story by Brad Rock, comparing Kodiak's statement that Utah plans to win the PAC-12 tournament to Bronco Mendenhall's statement that BYU planned to win a national championship.

Brad Rock: Whether it's Utah's Larry Krystkowiak or BYU's Bronco Mendenhall, thinking big is OK

It was late at night, and I was in a snarky mood, so I submitted this comment:

Lol. What Bronco said has nothing to do with what Larry said. It's so predictable that a comparison would be drawn, however. Ridiculous, too. Apples are apples, oranges are oranges.

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I really can't tell which of the 12 standards I violated. Any ideas? Anyway, I took a breath and submitted a much more milquetoast version:

Seems to me that Coach Krystkowiak's and Coach Mendenhall's comments are like apples and oranges -- the context for each was completely different. The comparison seems very strained. I don't understand why some in the Salt Lake media seem continually to look for reasons to compare various aspects of Utah athletics with BYU athletics.

This comment was accepted. Rock's article was still a weird mash of ideas the like of which I doubt I'd see in any other sports media market.

[UTEopia]

I begin my tale with this story by Brad Rock, comparing Kodiak's statement that Utah plans to win the PAC-12 tournament to Bronco Mendenhall's statement that BYU planned to win a national championship.

Brad Rock: Whether it's Utah's Larry Krystkowiak or BYU's Bronco Mendenhall, thinking big is OK

It was late at night, and I was in a snarky mood, so I submitted this comment:



To my surprise, I received this email the next morning:

Dear ****,




I really can't tell which of the 12 standards I violated. Any ideas? Anyway, I took a breath and submitted a much more milquetoast version:



This comment was accepted. Rock's article was still a weird mash of ideas the like of which I doubt I'd see in any other sports media market.

My guess is that they knew you were disparaging someone, somehow, but they weren't sure who or how so they just rejected it.

[U-Ute]

1320 launched a new local morning show this morning as Tim Montemayor, of the afternoon Monty and Gunther show, moved to mornings.

I listened to a little bit of it on my way in this morning, and I think it has promise.

PK's pot stirring schtick gets wearing at times, so it is nice to hear someone who will discuss the issues from an objective perspective.

[UBlender]

1320 launched a new local morning show this morning as Tim Montemayor, of the afternoon Monty and Gunther show, moved to mornings.

I listened to a little bit of it on my way in this morning, and I think it has promise.

PK's pot stirring schtick gets wearing at times, so it is nice to hear someone who will discuss the issues from an objective perspective.

How many times did Monty troll about firing Kyle Whittingham in the time you listened? Eight? Twelve?

[concerned]

How many times did Monty troll about firing Kyle Whittingham in the time you listened? Eight? Twelve?

I listened for a couple of minutes on my way to work. It was all BYU spring ball all the time, so he didnt mention Wittingham once. I had enjoyed flipping between Dan Patrick and John Feinstein in the morning; couldnt tell if they are keeping Feinstein on 1230; hope they do.

[U-Ute]

How many times did Monty troll about firing Kyle Whittingham in the time you listened? Eight? Twelve?

Lol. I didn't hear any particular calls in the segment I listened to, but your point is valid.

[Utah]

There are three shows I still listen to occasionally: Bill and Hans, Colin Cowherd and Dan Patrick. Gunther and Graham used to be on that list, but once Monty came on and went full blown zoob, I was done. With podcasts now-a-days, I don't think I'll ever go back.

He was nothing more than stirring the pot, right out the PK mold. Say anything to get people to call/text/tweet in. I guess if you like that type of schtick...

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Sounds like Tony Jones, the Utah beat writer for the Trib got "promoted" to be the Jazz beat writer starting next season. Don't worry though, we still get Lya.

[Utah]

Swinney and OC on ESPN 700 in the afternoons are amazing. Everything they talk about end ups morphing into Utah talk. It has been fantastic. Listen to these guys. Prove them right, that Utah fans are a force in the market, but they just need an outlet to find Utah news.

[U-Ute]

Swinney and OC on ESPN 700 in the afternoons are amazing. Everything they talk about end ups morphing into Utah talk. It has been fantastic. Listen to these guys. Prove them right, that Utah fans are a force in the market, but they just need an outlet to find Utah news.

I agree. I've really enjoyed them.

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Swinney and OC on ESPN 700 in the afternoons are amazing. Everything they talk about end ups morphing into Utah talk. It has been fantastic. Listen to these guys. Prove them right, that Utah fans are a force in the market, but they just need an outlet to find Utah news.

I really wish the 700 app would host podcasts as well. Having an app that only streams live is pretty silly. Especially since the website is a bit of mess on mobile.

[LA Ute]

I really wish the 700 app would host podcasts as well. Having an app that only streams live is pretty silly. Especially since the website is a bit of mess on mobile.

There are podcasts. I listen to them every day. Just search for the Bill Riley show and also the new O'Connnell - Swinney show. If you're not interested in what you are hearing, you can simply fast forward to something that does interest you.


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[Dwight Schr-Ute]

There are podcasts. I listen to them every day. Just search for the Bill Riley show and also the new O'Connnell - Swinney show. If you're not interested in what you are hearing, you can simply fast forward to something that does interest you.


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The ESPN 700 app has five functions: call the show, email the show, text the show, leave the app and go to the website, or listen live. I'm not denying that there are podcasts, because I do listen to them, it's just that you can't access any of that stuff through their app.

The issue I seem to have streaming on my iPhone through the website is that 50-70% of the time I follow a link to an interview, once the page loads (which is typically comparatively slow), it's buggy and won't recognize my attempts at hitting the play link fifty times. I have to reload the page once or twice to get it to work.

[Utah]

The ESPN 700 app has five functions: call the show, email the show, text the show, leave the app and go to the website, or listen live. I'm not denying that there are podcasts, because I do listen to them, it's just that you can't access any of that stuff through their app.

The issue I seem to have streaming on my iPhone through the website is that 50-70% of the time I follow a link to an interview, once the page loads (which is typically comparatively slow), it's buggy and won't recognize my attempts at hitting the play link fifty times. I have to reload the page once or twice to get it to work.

Yeah, their app sucks as does their website.

[LA Ute]

I've tried to listen to a few podcasts of O'Connell and Swinney. I can't find a way to enjoy the show. Neither one of them can carry a show alone and it doesn't look like they can do it together either. So much of their air time is wasted on banal banter. Do sports fans really want to listen to all that? I wonder if they will last.

[UtahsMrSports]

I've tried to listen to a few podcasts of O'Connell and Swinney. I can't find a way to enjoy the show. Neither one of them can carry a show alone and it doesn't look like they can do it together either. So much of their air time is wasted on banal banter. Do sports fans really want to listen to all that? I wonder if they will last.

Theyre ok. Swinney has been better than I thought. OC is good at talking football or MMA, otherwise he is lost. Not a great x's and o's show by any means.

The oddest thing on 700 lately to me is a seemingly daily appearance by scott mitchell. I mean, hes fine and all, I just dont get why he needs to be on everyday.

[Utah]

I really wish the 700 app would host podcasts as well. Having an app that only streams live is pretty silly. Especially since the website is a bit of mess on mobile.

This. I have them load up on my phone automatically every night. I have an iPhone and listen through the podcast app.

[concerned]

This. I have them load up on my phone automatically every night. I have an iPhone and listen through the podcast app.

which app?

[LA Ute]

which app?

There's a native iPhone app, which I don't like much. I use Podcruncher, which costs $2.95 or so. Easy to use, has some nice features.


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[U-Ute]

I was thinking about who 1280 might scoop up from 1320.

If they could find a producer with the personality to keep them wrangled, Gunther's wild man act combined with Hans's straight man act could be a duo right out of the Odd Couple. Plus, their combined football analysis would own college football around here.

It could be awesome, or it could be a train wreck. LOL

[UtahsMrSports]

Swinney put his thoughts together.

http://www.scout.com/college/utah/st...ost-for-a-year

Also, it looks like 1430 KLO has picked up Rome. KLO is the home of some second and third tier right wing political shows.

[concerned]

Swinney put his thoughts together.

http://www.scout.com/college/utah/st...ost-for-a-year

Also, it looks like 1430 KLO has picked up Rome. KLO is the home of some second and third tier right wing political shows.

I liked listening to Swinney a lot. He is right--he was informed and articulate. and provided a lot of info and insight re the U. Same with Ben Anderson on 1320. Clearly I am in the vast minority.

Tom Hackett and OC are impossible to listen to, so I dont try any more. It is now just a goofy clown show.

[UtahsMrSports]

I liked listening to Swinney a lot. He is right--he was informed and articulate. and provided a lot of info and insight re the U. Same with Ben Anderson on 1320. Clearly I am in the vast minority.

Tom Hackett and OC are impossible to listen to, so I dont try any more. It is now just a goofy clown show.

I thought that when OC and swinney were focused, they were ok. But I go back to that time where they came in from break and started talking about where they get their haircut and they just kept going and then finally they got around to bringing Scott Mitchell on (who had been on hold through this) and they started off by asking him where he likes to get his haircut. I might have just hung up. There was too much of that for me. I don't mind some off topic stuff, it makes it interesting but they really veered off the path too much for me.

Agreed on OC and hackett. I simply cant do it. Its bad radio. I dont expect it to last long.

I didn't like Ben Anderson on KFAN. But I have to admit that I have really enjoyed the few episodes of that NBA show that ESPN 700 does on thursday nights since KFAN went off the air. He has a really good basketball mind and expresses himself well. I hope he can find a landing spot where he doesn't have to keep someone in check like he had to do with Gunther. Hes kind of like Jake Scott on 1280. He is soooooo much better now with a guy like Tony Parks than he was when he had to put up with Monson.

[Scorcho]

My theory is that sports writers are now mostly judged on the number of hits an article can generate. If you can incorporate Coack K and Bronco in a single article you can inevitably generate more hits than if you just focus on one fan base or the other.

[UtahsMrSports]

I begin my tale with this story by Brad Rock, comparing Kodiak's statement that Utah plans to win the PAC-12 tournament to Bronco Mendenhall's statement that BYU planned to win a national championship.

Brad Rock: Whether it's Utah's Larry Krystkowiak or BYU's Bronco Mendenhall, thinking big is OK

It was late at night, and I was in a snarky mood, so I submitted this comment:



To my surprise, I received this email the next morning:

Dear ****,




I really can't tell which of the 12 standards I violated. Any ideas? Anyway, I took a breath and submitted a much more milquetoast version:



This comment was accepted. Rock's article was still a weird mash of ideas the like of which I doubt I'd see in any other sports media market.

Stuff like this absolutely kills me. The Deseret News loves to boast about how they use moderators so that their comment section can be a place for a positive discussion. having been a fan of comment sections, I can tell you that I have yet to find a bigger cesspool of trolls than the Deseret News. And it is exactly what you mentioned. Comments that are benign are denied with no explanation. Comments that even a third grader could tell are blatantly inflammatory are posted and remain despite being reported.

[UtahsMrSports]

Speaking of Monty on 1320, I had an interesting interaction with him on twitter. To summarize:

Me: Why are Ute fans arguing with Monty? This guy is so delusional, he believes KFAN has the top rated afternoon drive time show.
Monthy (to me): You obviously have no idea what youre talking about! Youre ignorant! We are #1!
Me: (to monty): So arbitron is wrong?
Monty: *crickets*

In fact, arbitron shows that KFAN has about half the audience of the zone. and also less than ESPN 700.

If you go through Monty's time line on twitter, its pretty obvious that he is an antics guy who is all about sensationalizing things to drive ratings. No thanks. I'll stick to guys with an established audience who talk sports and give real opinion, not slobbering lunatics who are trying anything to get an audience.

[SoCalPat]

Speaking of Monty on 1320, I had an interesting interaction with him on twitter. To summarize:

Me: Why are Ute fans arguing with Monty? This guy is so delusional, he believes KFAN has the top rated afternoon drive time show.
Monthy (to me): You obviously have no idea what youre talking about! Youre ignorant! We are #1!
Me: (to monty): So arbitron is wrong?
Monty: *crickets*

In fact, arbitron shows that KFAN has about half the audience of the zone. and also less than ESPN 700.

If you go through Monty's time line on twitter, its pretty obvious that he is an antics guy who is all about sensationalizing things to drive ratings. No thanks. I'll stick to guys with an established audience who talk sports and give real opinion, not slobbering lunatics who are trying anything to get an audience.

Unless you actually subscribe to Arbitron, the numbers you see online are for one ratings survey, and while it tells part of the story, it doesn't tell the entire story. Stations have to pay thousands of dollars annually for access to the entire batch of data, and Monty's not going to share whatever numbers he has with the general public.

You can say what you want about Monty's show or style -- I've never listened and only give him cursory attention on Twitter. However, I'd stay away from getting into industry arguments with him, or any other radio professional.

[UtahsMrSports]

Unless you actually subscribe to Arbitron, the numbers you see online are for one ratings survey, and while it tells part of the story, it doesn't tell the entire story. Stations have to pay thousands of dollars annually for access to the entire batch of data, and Monty's not going to share whatever numbers he has with the general public.

You can say what you want about Monty's show or style -- I've never listened and only give him cursory attention on Twitter. However, I'd stay away from getting into industry arguments with him, or any other radio professional.

I get that. At the same time, I have asked radio professionals for the numbers and was told that I could approach them at a remote event and they would show me anything I wanted. I did just that and Montys claim is simply not true, or close to it.

[Utah]

I get that. At the same time, I have asked radio professionals for the numbers and was told that I could approach them at a remote event and they would show me anything I wanted. I did just that and Montys claim is simply not true, or close to it.

In reality, it is shocking how little of advertising is true these days. Business these days has morphed into: "Say and do anything to screw as many people out of as many cents as you can, then either sell or bankrupt out when they call you out on it, laughing all the way to the bank."

It's really pathetic. I used to be BIG time right wing guy, but seeing how in business it has become 100% okay to throw all ethics out the window, I know we need regulation, big time. It's too bad.

Anyways, sorry to hijack the thread. My point is don't believe what the tv/radio tell you. Most of the time it is a stretch.

[wally]

My point is don't believe what the tv/radio tell you. Most of the time it is a stretch.

Damn. I wish you would have told me this before I converted all my liquid assets to gold this past week.