Big blow to any chance for a successful season next year. But a reminder that sports are just sports. Best to Donnie and his family.
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Big blow to any chance for a successful season next year. But a reminder that sports are just sports. Best to Donnie and his family.
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Now DNews reporting Daniels will transfer; visiting Rutgers.
"Don't apologize; it's not your fault. It's my fault for overestimating your competence."
“To me there is no dishonor in being wrong and learning. There is dishonor in willful ignorance and there is dishonor in disrespect.” James Hatch, former Navy Seal and current Yale student.
Does Tillman’s mom live in New Jersey? (Please forgive my cynicism.)
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"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
One news outlet is claiming Tillman sent them a direct message on social media saying he never said leave of absence.
His statement indeed never used those words, but it certainly indicated his mom was the reason he was leaving.
I’ve seen some speculation athletes are now using things like family issues in press releases to try and get out of the sit out rule.
Obviously none of us know the truth. But something smells fishy
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"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Least surprising news ever: Donnie Tillman is heading to UNLV.
“It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Was anyone here thick enough to believe that Tillman would be back?
One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike -- and yet it is the most precious thing we have.
--Albert Einstein
The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing, is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice.
--Richard Dawkins
Be kind to all, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.
--Philo
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Naseem Gaskin is now in the transfer portal. I assume he found himself buried on the depth chart in offseason practices and is probably headed to a JC. 11 scholarships right now.
:SerenityNow:
https://images.app.goo.gl/oQry1C8Pwm3BxMBs7
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On the plus side might mean that someone among Rylan, Wenzel, Brenchley, Plummer or several of them, were ahead of Gaskin. And then next year Martinez joins the program.
Gaskin was much like CJones Jr., really good athlete with a non-fixable shot. And with Timmy at the 3 & the big Finn at the 4 the Utes need a shooter at the 2.
So maybe he is smarter than Pop was & pulled the rip cord early to safe 1/2 year on sitting out.?
For a very positive & detailed review of Both Gach look at the Twitter feed from Grant Aqui NBA. Young self-proclaimed draft geek, who worked with the Suns during last draft. He thinks he is pro material.
Sorry my limited computer skills will not all ow me to transfer or give you more on site than that. Where is a good Ukrainian bot when you need one?
Basketball program hit by NCAA sanctions for recruiting violations. Because, of course.
http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/...ing-violations
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On a separate basketball note, this is going up at center court and I am pleased.
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"Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
"And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla
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One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike -- and yet it is the most precious thing we have.
--Albert Einstein
The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing, is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice.
--Richard Dawkins
Be kind to all, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.
--Philo
So about two or three years ago (maybe around the time LK got an extension) I heard a rumor that Tommy Connor had been designated LK's successor. I thought "that can't be true. C Hill is not going to commit to making an asst who has no D-1 head coach experience the next head coach, without a snationwide search. And he certainly isn't going to do it when he is set to reitre soon, and tie the hands of his successor." So I forgot about it.
Then, some time after Harlan took over (months ago), I heard a rumor that Harlan had "breached" the agreement with Tommy Connor and wasn't going to honor it. I still thought that rumor made no sense, because there wouldn't be such an agreement in the first place, but that if I were Harlan, that is the first thing I would do.
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Also, "2-3 years ago" isn't much after the time Tommy interviewed for, and didn't get, the Utah State job.
The HCIW only makes sense under two scenarios that I can think of. First, the HCIW is highly sought after by other schools AND the current HC admittedly doesn't have much shelf life. Will Muschamp at Texas some years ago was the first such notable instance -- I believe he voided the agreement by taking the Florida job, which he was well within his right to do. A more recent example closer to home was Mike Hopkins at Syracuse. And maybe he'll be the Orange's first call when Boeheim retires. Maybe taking the UW job didn't burn that bridge. At the same time, nobody in Syracuse begrudged Mike for getting tired of waiting (When I was a teen 30 years ago, everyone had tabbed Bernie Fine as Boeheim's successor).
The second instance is when you have a HC who, after an extended period of loyalty and success, wants to name his successor. Under more normal scenarios, Majerus likely would've been allowed to do this. The most notable instance of this being carried out was when Dean Smith retired at UNC, and Bill Guthridge got the job.
In both instances, you make a big deal about it if you're the school, or at the very least, you're not secretive about it. You appease the fan base and anyone you recruit by doing so. And in the case of Smith, he had earned the right to make that demand (duh ...). In any event, continuity is important. It's also possible that many, many more of these types of agreements are already in place that we don't know about, and I'm overstating the need to publicize such an arrangement.
So why didn't Utah do so with Tommy? Because everyone knew Tommy didn't fit criteria No. 1, and Larry didn't fit criteria No. 2.
Which brings me to my next point. What on earth was Hill's motivation for doing this? He knows the quality of candidate that would be interested in Utah. Why shut that off?
The only thing I'm certain of right now is that if it took a slap on the wrist from the NCAA and some embarrassment over being put "on probation," it was well worth it to ensure TC doesn't remain locked in as an automatic replacement for Larry. He shares in the culpability of player transfers -- I certainly don't see anything in Tommy that leads me to believe he can be the "good cop" to Larry's "bad cop."
One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike -- and yet it is the most precious thing we have.
--Albert Einstein
The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing, is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice.
--Richard Dawkins
Be kind to all, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.
--Philo
Gaskin lands at Montana. Good for him. Not to say anything nice about Larry...why would anyone want to do that? But I would have to imagine that given his ties to Montana, he helped Gaskin get there...especially given how late in the offseason Gaskin decided to leave.
So...
Donnie Tillman - UNLV
Jayce Johnson - Marquette
Brandon Morely - UVU (not on scholarship at Utah)
Charles Jones Jr - Portland St.
Naseem Gaskin - Montana
Vante Hendrix - New Mexico (Fresno first, then UNM)
Christian Popoola - SLCC
There you have it.
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“It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.