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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Has there ever been a bigger coaching hire than the one the Huskies just pulled off?
    Don James.

    I will say that I am happy for the Huskies and look forward to watching CP in this league. I like Sark a lot, but I think UW got the better end of the transaction...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
    Don James.

    I will say that I am happy for the Huskies and look forward to watching CP in this league. I like Sark a lot, but I think UW got the better end of the transaction...
    I'm talking about the bigness of the hire, not actual coaching success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    I'm talking about the bigness of the hire, not actual coaching success.
    In that case how about one of Don James' former players. Nick Saban played Defensive Back at Kent State under Don James.

    Saban was OK at Michigan State, then absolutely tore it up at LSU, then bombed in the NFL for a few years. His success at Bama is impressive, but he was a BCS Championship winner at rival LSU a few years before.

    So Nick Saban was definitely a higher profile hire than CP. That said, the list of coaching hires that are higher profile than CP to UW is pretty short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
    In that case how about one of Don James' former players. Nick Saban played Defensive Back at Kent State under Don James.

    Saban was OK at Michigan State, then absolutely tore it up at LSU, then bombed in the NFL for a few years. His success at Bama is impressive, but he was a BCS Championship winner at rival LSU a few years before.

    So Nick Saban was definitely a higher profile hire than CP. That said, the list of coaching hires that are higher profile than CP to UW is pretty short.

    UM to OSU? Sumlin to A&M? Brett Beilema to Arkansas? Bobby Petrino to Arkansas? Whoever gets hired at Texas next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    UM to OSU? Sumlin to A&M? Brett Beilema to Arkansas? Bobby Petrino to Arkansas? Whoever gets hired at Texas next?
    Yes. That is most of the short list.

    Also add Steve Spurrier to South Carolina.

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    Back to rivalry talk- what PAC12 message boards do you like? I've struggled to find any that I like checking out. Cal has an absolutely putrid one, and I don't like the generic Rivals type boards. CU has one with a lot of soul and fan identity, but those guys are so bad that they don't have much to talk about.
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    Tosh Lupoi being investigated for allegedly paying for private tutoring for a recruit.

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    Interesting piece in the L.A. Times. Bill Paschke is a fine sportswriter and Jim Mora is a fine coach.

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/ucla/l...29-column.html

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    So, I often see Mike Riley on "best coaches" lists. Why is this? I don't doubt that's he's a fine coach, but OSU never finishes very high and sometimes finishes rather low. Why is Riley the only coach in the country who can still get credit with a less than stellar record?

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    I love this.

    Cal marks the location of the Hayward fault line that runs through the stadium.

    http://scout.com/college/california/...sset-105674353

    They also give visitors a helpful tip: DO NOT FALL INTO THE FAULT LINE

    HaywardFaultCal.jpg

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    Boise had Wazzu 31-17 with the ball and 6 minutes to go. Ended up losing in OT. Was there a pick 6 involved, you ask? Yes, yes there was.

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    RichRod and Graham are coaching their last seasons in the desert. What about Gary? Is he done at OSU?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Boise had Wazzu 31-17 with the ball and 6 minutes to go. Ended up losing in OT. Was there a pick 6 involved, you ask? Yes, yes there was.
    Pick 6 AND a fumble on a punt (not by the returner; a blocker).

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    This thread is brilliant.


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    Arizona State schedules H-H with Mississippi State, beginning in 2024, with ASU hosting first.

    https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...d-home-series/

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    I wonder what Jack Sears is thinking now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    I wonder what Jack Sears is thinking now.
    "Where can i transfer to, and when do I have to leave by to keep my eligibility"

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    UW shoots themselves in the feet one too many times, and a crucial missed targeting call in the 4th quarter seals the deal. Would have been nice to have a 2-0 UW in SLC in two weeks.

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    Who here expects Washington to look a lot better this week? I do. Petersen is a good coach. He isn't used to playing good teams every week. I'd put money down, that he spent the last month prepping for Illinois 1/3rd of the time and Stanford for 2/3rd of the time. It wouldn't even surprise me if he didn't even look at the last two teams more than a passing glance. I think Washington comes out and looks great this week, wins next week, and gives Stanford all they can handle.

    I said before the year began, that it wouldn't shock me to see Stanford sitting at 2-2 after the Washington game. That game will be for second place in the North.

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    OK, maybe not for second place. Washington does luck out in that they don't play us, so maybe it's not for second place.

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    USC in trouble against BC, down by 10 in the third.
    "Don't apologize; it's not your fault. It's my fault for overestimating your competence."

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    USC in trouble against BC, down by 10 in the third.
    Ucla/Texas is a game featuring zero offenses. Ucla's qb is currently Rick neuheisals kid.

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    Rosen Living A Dream

    http://ucla.scout.com/story/1470971-...living-a-dream

    “The reason I love UCLA so much is because I want to win for a school that isn’t used to winning,” said Rosen.
    Ouch.


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    So who do we want to win this week in the PAC-12 (I would include other games in the Top 25 but I don't think it matters much, if we win we move up if we lose then we don't.)

    Friday, October 24 2014

    #6 Oregon @ California*
    10:00 PM ET FOX SPORTS 1- Neutral site game at Levi Stadium. My guess is Oregon rolls. I want to see Oregon do well since it makes the Pac-12 look better. If anyone is going to upset Oregon it better be Utah
    Saturday, October 25 2014


    #25 UCLA @ Colorad 2:00 PM ET P12N - I would love to see Colorado beat UCLA because it would help us in the South standings. Some will say that it makes our win against UCLA look worse, but if we beat USC that won't matter. Not to mention we will have plenty of times to prove ourselves with our upcoming schedule.

    Oregon State @ Stanford 3:30 ET ESPN2 - This is a toss-up I'm going to go with Oregon State here.

    #15 Arizona @ WSU 6:00 ET P12N - Easy one here, need Arizona to lose to improve our South standings and a WSU win would help justify us losing to WSU a bit...kinda?

    #14 ASU @ Wasington
    10:45 ET ESPN - Would like to see Washington beat ASU. Helps with our pac 12 south standings. Also I hate the Desert Zoobs. Would be nice for them to be recovering from a loss when we play them next week. Strangely I picked them in the survivor pool though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaUte View Post
    So who do we want to win this week in the PAC-12 (I would include other games in the Top 25 but I don't think it matters much, if we win we move up if we lose then we don't.)

    #25 UCLA @ Colorad
    2:00 PM ET P12N - I would love to see Colorado beat UCLA because it would help us in the South standings. Some will say that it makes our win against UCLA look worse, but if we beat USC that won't matter. Not to mention we will have plenty of times to prove ourselves with our upcoming schedule.
    I like your reasoning, but I also don't mind at all if CU is 0-8 when we see them in Boulder.

    Oregon State @ Stanford 3:30 ET ESPN2 - This is a toss-up I'm going to go with Oregon State here.
    Are you serious? This is not a hard choice. We lose 1-2 guys every year to Stanford. We want them to return to the bottom of the conference where they belong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post

    Are you serious? This is not a hard choice. We lose 1-2 guys every year to Stanford. We want them to return to the bottom of the conference where they belong.
    Yeah, you're right, I wasn't really thinking about recruiting at the time. It would definitely be beneficial for Utah if Stanford to fall back into the cellar.

    I like your reasoning, but I also don't mind at all if CU is 0-8 when we see them in Boulder.
    I actually would prefer Colorado to have at least 1 win, preferably against a south opponent, that way they aren't righting tooth and nail to get a win at the end of the season against Utah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaUte View Post
    So who do we want to win this week in the PAC-12 (I would include other games in the Top 25 but I don't think it matters much, if we win we move up if we lose then we don't.)

    Friday, October 24 2014

    #6 Oregon @ California*
    10:00 PM ET FOX SPORTS 1- Neutral site game at Levi Stadium. My guess is Oregon rolls. I want to see Oregon do well since it makes the Pac-12 look better. If anyone is going to upset Oregon it better be Utah
    Saturday, October 25 2014


    #25 UCLA @ Colorad 2:00 PM ET P12N - I would love to see Colorado beat UCLA because it would help us in the South standings. Some will say that it makes our win against UCLA look worse, but if we beat USC that won't matter. Not to mention we will have plenty of times to prove ourselves with our upcoming schedule.

    Oregon State @ Stanford 3:30 ET ESPN2 - This is a toss-up I'm going to go with Oregon State here.

    #15 Arizona @ WSU 6:00 ET P12N - Easy one here, need Arizona to lose to improve our South standings and a WSU win would help justify us losing to WSU a bit...kinda?

    #14 ASU @ Wasington
    10:45 ET ESPN - Would like to see Washington beat ASU. Helps with our pac 12 south standings. Also I hate the Desert Zoobs. Would be nice for them to be recovering from a loss when we play them next week. Strangely I picked them in the survivor pool though.
    All of this is immaterial to Utah if we don't win Saturday. USC becomes a prohibitive favorite to win the South if it wins Saturday (With easily the league's toughest schedule remaining, I would also say we're a solid favorite to finish fifth; if we're lucky, tied for fourth or even third outright). Yes, it will still be tied in the loss column with Arizona, but it owns the head-to-head there. (EDIT: I keep forgetting that ASU didn't lose to USC, and only has one league loss as a result. It's remaining league slate, however, is considerably tougher than USC's.) USC also doesn't play Oregon and will have gone 4-1 vs. South Division foes. As things stand, only Utah is undefeated vs. the South right now, but only at 1-0, and if it loses Saturday, can finish no better than 4-1 in the division, where USC would again have the tiebreaker.

    Show me otherwise, but the only way Utah can win the South with a loss Saturday would be for USC to lose out to get to 5-4, with Utah finishing 6-3 or 7-2. With a closing league slate of UCLA, Cal and Wazzu, that's not happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalPat View Post
    All of this is immaterial to Utah if we don't win Saturday. USC becomes a prohibitive favorite to win the South if it wins Saturday (With easily the league's toughest schedule remaining, I would also say we're a solid favorite to finish fifth; if we're lucky, tied for fourth or even third outright). Yes, it will still be tied in the loss column with Arizona, but it owns the head-to-head there. (EDIT: I keep forgetting that ASU didn't lose to USC, and only has one league loss as a result. It's remaining league slate, however, is considerably tougher than USC's.) USC also doesn't play Oregon and will have gone 4-1 vs. South Division foes. As things stand, only Utah is undefeated vs. the South right now, but only at 1-0, and if it loses Saturday, can finish no better than 4-1 in the division, where USC would again have the tiebreaker.

    Show me otherwise, but the only way Utah can win the South with a loss Saturday would be for USC to lose out to get to 5-4, with Utah finishing 6-3 or 7-2. With a closing league slate of UCLA, Cal and Wazzu, that's not happening.
    Sure, we're just dreaming while we still can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by @ESPN_Pac12blog
    Mike Leach wants a 64-team playoff. http://es.pn/1U7ohiI
    Of course he does. How else does Wazzu get in?

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    Ok. I gotta admit to some coveting with this shot...

    http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.d...CLID=210249890

    That's pretty sweet looking.

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