I'm not entirely convinced you even watch football.
What we saw against Weber, NIU, UW, and WSU was Troy Taylor ball. We just had a horrible case of the drops. Kyle exerted his influence (strong run game with innovative blocking schemes, run to set up down field threats, clock control) and Stanford/Arizona/USC/UCLA happened.
This is very common thinking among Kyle fans. When we lose after a poor offensive showing, it is the OC‘s fault. When we win, it is because of Kyle. When we lose after a poor defensive showing, everyone looks at Scalley. When special teams screw up regularly, as they did this season, no one looks at the special teams coordinator (who happens to be the head coach, last time I checked). But Kyle hires all those guys.Originally Posted by NorthwestUteFan
He also oversees recruiting, so yes, we have players who do well in a power running scheme: Moss, Shyne, and a big, talented offensive line. So a scheme that emphasizes the power running attack that Kyle likes, and around which the offensive personnel are built, works for the Utes. As Uteopia has notes, Kyle says he wants a power running scheme with bruiser RBs, one that takes care of the football and has a quarterback who can make big plays. That’s great, and it has worked for us.
I am critical of Kyle for hiring OCs like Taylor who don’t want to run his system, and for the constant turnover in the OC spot since 2008 and the problems that creates. I am realistic about the fact that really talented WR recruits and QB recruits who like to pass generally aren’t going to find in Utah an attractive destination. There can be no doubt that opposing schools use Kyle’s offensive philosophy to recruit against us. And so on.
Kyle is the most successful and greatest coach we’ve ever had at Utah. He is who he is, and he has limits, and I hope he stays until he retires. I wouldn’t mind seeing him retire sooner rather than later, but I am am ardent fan of the program and of the University and I am going to be cheering for him as long as he in his job, but I cheer primarily for the school, not any particular coach or player. Still, now and then I am going to be critical of Kyle. He is not the perfect coach. What really bothers me is that so many here, and on other fan boards, see Kyle as a sacred cow and become indignant when he is criticized. I am still going to criticize him sometimes, and in doing so I am not criticizing Allah, an LDS prophet, or the Pope.
So there!
Last edited by LA Ute; 12-23-2018 at 11:35 AM.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Totally agree with you.
Have a nice day all !
I don't know who the hell he's talking about. I defend Kyle, but I think assistant coaches are always overrated and rarely if ever save a program. The buck stops with the head coaches as far as I'm concerned. I started watching football when assistant coaches were hardly noticed, so maybe my view is skewed. But my point is that many or some of us who defend Kyle don't do what LA says we do.
Last edited by SeattleUte; 05-23-2019 at 12:51 AM.
One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike -- and yet it is the most precious thing we have.
--Albert Einstein
The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing, is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice.
--Richard Dawkins
Be kind to all, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.
--Philo
Are BYU players trolling the Utes (Zach Wilson a couple of weeks ago and Isaiah Kafusi today) on twitter in an attempt to get the Utes over hyped, are they trying to convince themselves of something or are they just trying to get their fans juiced? I'm always suspect of guys who talk the talk before walking the walk. I guess talk is all you have when you haven't done anything. The more they do it, the more I like it.
https://twitter.com/isaiah_kaufusi/s...43502236000259
I posted that months ago. You've been trolled by a bot. You revere Kyle and brook no criticism of him. Everyone knows that. Anyway, I'm happy with Kyle now and have nothing more to say about that subject.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
I've wondered at times if Seattle is a bot. Maybe this is a bot fight.
This joke was told in other forms two times already.
One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike -- and yet it is the most precious thing we have.
--Albert Einstein
The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing, is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice.
--Richard Dawkins
Be kind to all, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.
--Philo
LOL. OK, I guess I could say “Utah fans who place Kyle on a pedestal, excuse all his shortcomings, and abhor any criticism of him.”
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
You are not like that, but there are plenty of Utah fans in that category -- and we do have our own mini-Torquemada here on this board. But it’s OK. Most of it’s on the Facebook page, and it has become fascinating to watch.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
People who say positive things about Whittingham don’t just spontaneously gush a liturgy of adoration. They respond to fans who have wanted to fire him....
Firing Whittinham is an outcome that would be met with shock and derision in every quarter of people who know a lot more about college football than LAUte or Chris Hill. Those who have responded to LAUte’s nonsense are not the ones obsessed with Whittingham.... It’s sad that he can’t just accept Utah football for what it is—a program with fewer assets of every kind required to excel in the P5 realm than most P5 schools that nevertheless generally outperforms expectations and most P5 programs.
Last edited by LA Ute; 12-27-2018 at 11:05 AM.
One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike -- and yet it is the most precious thing we have.
--Albert Einstein
The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing, is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice.
--Richard Dawkins
Be kind to all, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.
--Philo
Merry Christmas, Seattle! ❤️ If you've ever seen me say anywhere that KW should be fired, or that Utah doesn't face the challenges you list, can you tell me if the statement you saw was adjacent to, above, below, or superimposed on the unicorn you also saw in my post?
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I'm very sorry it upsets you so much when people aren't holding opinions of which you approve. It must be hard for you.
Last edited by LA Ute; 12-27-2018 at 11:16 AM.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
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