Life in the Trump Era, Part 2

[Ma'ake]

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...ference-416255

Tactics in Florida:

- construct a cage on a flatbed truck, have a person in costume as Hillary in a prisoner uniform inside, impressive enough to be mimicked by a man in Cape Coral.

- organized "Florida Goes Trump" campaign rallies held in 20 cities, with oddly worded news releases, like "On August 20, we want to gather patriots on the start of Floridian towns and cities and march to unite America and support Donald Trump!"

- Russian-linked Facebook group "Being Patriotic" sent messages to followers like "Florida is still a purple state and we need to appoint it red"

LA makes an excellent point that the Mueller investigation could lead us in quite a different direction than expected. This is absolutely a new Cold War, and make no mistake - the Russians will/would turn on Trump, just like they riled up both sides of the BLM with different Facebook groups on both sides (complete with some awkward English).

If this ends up leading far deeper, into the campaign, then Mueller is showing he's pretty damn smart in bringing these unexpected indictments to keep off balance the forces trying to get him canned & the investigation halted.

Releasing these late on the Friday of a 3 day weekend suggests a PR strategy to keep this as low profile as possible, so as to not inflame Trump any more than necessary, but signal to Congress that Mueller is finding information they should want to see explored, not terminated.

How will Hannity & Nunes deal with THIS? The (I think contrived) story about Deep State in the corrupt FBI out to undermine Trump has taken on urban myth status on the right. What will be the Right media's narrative on these indictments?

Later this evening, more indictments on Manafort, with details suggesting fraud, possible money laundering. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ainst-manafort

[LA Ute]

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...ference-416255

Tactics in Florida:

- construct a cage on a flatbed truck, have a person in costume as Hillary in a prisoner uniform inside, impressive enough to be mimicked by a man in Cape Coral.

- organized "Florida Goes Trump" campaign rallies held in 20 cities, with oddly worded news releases, like "On August 20, we want to gather patriots on the start of Floridian towns and cities and march to unite America and support Donald Trump!"

- Russian-linked Facebook group "Being Patriotic" sent messages to followers like "Florida is still a purple state and we need to appoint it red"

LA makes an excellent point that the Mueller investigation could lead us in quite a different direction than expected. This is absolutely a new Cold War, and make no mistake - the Russians will/would turn on Trump, just like they riled up both sides of the BLM with different Facebook groups on both sides (complete with some awkward English).

If this ends up leading far deeper, into the campaign, then Mueller is showing he's pretty damn smart in bringing these unexpected indictments to keep off balance the forces trying to get him canned & the investigation halted.

Releasing these late on the Friday of a 3 day weekend suggests a PR strategy to keep this as low profile as possible, so as to not inflame Trump any more than necessary, but signal to Congress that Mueller is finding information they should want to see explored, not terminated.

How will Hannity & Nunes deal with THIS? The (I think contrived) story about Deep State in the corrupt FBI out to undermine Trump has taken on urban myth status on the right. What will be the Right media's narrative on these indictments?

Later this evening, more indictments on Manafort, with details suggesting fraud, possible money laundering. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ainst-manafort

It’s hard to keep track, but wasn’t the most successful effort an anti-Trump rally in NYC after the election? 16,000 people? I’m happy to be corrected if I heard that wrong. The malevolence of the Russians’ mischief is that it seeks to set people in a free liberal democracy against each other. Sickening when you think about it. Bad people are running Russia again.


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[Diehard Ute]

It’s hard to keep track, but wasn’t the most successful effort an anti-Trump rally in NYC after the election? 16,000 people? I’m happy to be corrected if I heard that wrong. The malevolence of the Russians’ mischief is that it seeks to set people in a free liberal democracy against each other. Sickening when you think about it. Bad people are running Russia again.


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Putin has been in power for 18 years. Even the 4 years he wasn’t president he was Prime Minister.....to a president who is now his Prime Minister.

As a country we likely got too enamored with the idea that Russia had changed.


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[Ma'ake]

Putin has been in power for 18 years. Even the 4 years he wasn’t president he was Prime Minister.....to a president who is now his Prime Minister.

As a country we likely got too enamored with the idea that Russia had changed.

Completely agree. Putin was a KGB agent, during the heyday of Soviet power.

Especially after being rebuffed for inclusion in NATO and the EU (the Euros were aghast at the brutality Putin (apparently) unleashed in Chechnya to consolidate his autocratic power) he's been on a long campaign to exert Russian power by destabilizing other nations.

Russia's economy is half the size of California's. A return of Greater Russia isn't going to happen, economically.

For the US, Putin has been on an aggressive campaign to get the sanctions against Russian oligarchs lifted. That's the key fact that Americans of all political persuasions need to remember. We need to stop arguing and posturing among ourselves and keep our eyes on the ball.

[LA Ute]

As a country we likely got too enamored with the idea that Russia had changed.

Yeah. It was wishful thinking. With 1000 years of a paranoid culture, resentful of the West‘s treatment of it as a second-class citizen, Russia is not a place that’s easy for the rest of the world to deal with. It never will be.

Completely agree. Putin was a KGB agent, during the heyday of Soviet power.

Especially after being rebuffed for inclusion in NATO and the EU (the Euros were aghast at the brutality Putin (apparently) unleashed in Chechnya to consolidate his autocratic power) he's been on a long campaign to exert Russian power by destabilizing other nations.

Russia's economy is half the size of California's. A return of Greater Russia isn't going to happen, economically.

For the US, Putin has been on an aggressive campaign to get the sanctions against Russian oligarchs lifted. That's the key fact that Americans of all political persuasions need to remember. We need to stop arguing and posturing among ourselves and keep our eyes on the ball.

Hey! Good post. It’s an ironic possibility that Putin will cause the United States to develop a bipartisan foreign policy again, at least as regards Russia. Wouldn’t that be something?